Why women look so ugly in this game?

[Nonomori]

Like, literally, with exception of Shadowheart which is moderate wife material, rest of the main characters and all the female NPCs are ugly as all Hell. What's the matter with that trend? Women CAN be independent and powerful without looking like stumps with eyes.

[Hannibal]

Originally posted by ChaosKhan:

Originally posted by Hannibal:

It just seem that you're sad bc this game don't oversexualize women
In any case, beauty is relative. The characters are very diverse and unique, if you don't find any of them attractive then that's sounds like your problem
Personaly, I find only Astarion attractive so far, but his personality is way too cocky for me, yet I ain't complaying bc a company didn't included my personal tastes in a game that ins't even focused on romance
It's one of it's pillars? Sure is, but the focus point here is adventure, and the joy to walk your own path on this world

So yeah, maybe this game just ins't for you if that's your priority.

That reasoning won't cut it.
The devs took up a famous household name and a famous franchise, one that is directly linked to Bioware, no less. How is it a "you problem", if some people expect at least the same amount of eye candy, that the predecessors, be it spiritual or mechanical, provided?

Don't you find it weird yourself, that you find a man to be the most attractive out of the cast? Kinda just proves my point further...

Proves your point? No, it just proves that I'm mostly gay, and that I love vampires. And I don't know about you, but when I'm interacting with people, having sex with then ins't a though that usually cross my mind. Besides, Karlach is absolutely stunning both in appareance and personality. Some of my friends as well love Shadowheart and that one drow on the goblin's camp, so really, it's a "you problem" bc it's literally personal taste. It's note a good basis for a critique. Their characters are diverse, deep constructed, with a long history, vivid personality and their own unique charisma. Even if was there a oversexualized subserviant woman with no brains those people would still have something to complain about. Bc that's just what they want, since it ins't a gross dating sim. Hell, even in dating sim you frequently will not get what you want- the character you most love will hate and the one who you have less interest in will almost jump on you.
So yeah, again, it's their problem.

[Hannibal]

Originally posted by Sheepman:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Guess this is what they mean when they say porn rots your brain when you assume the only way women can be pretty is with cartoonishly large tiddy

Honestly that's the only direction I can see this going unless you're unironically just wanting to put more makeup on them.

Yeah fr. Those guys really just sounds like someone who haven't seen a real women in years, just like those who complained about Aloi having facial hair.

[King_Paimon_1936]

Cause they're not?? You may not be personally attracted to them but I mean come on, Isobel, Karlach, Jaheria, and even just random Harpy fist or absolutist npcs all look conventionally attractive. I mean what good reasons do you have to think that they look ugly enough to call them "stumps??"

[Lamundari]

Im still curious in what radiation waste dump you people live to believe that outside of Shadowheart any of them is "conventionally" attractive . Even she's not actually that though.

[Drakanoth, One]

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl:

Im still curious in what radiation waste dump you people live to believe that outside of Shadowheart any of them is "conventionally" attractive . Even she's not actually that though.

Real life? Anime has broken an entire generation, I swear to god. I wont say anything about the others because its useless discussing since its fiction, and theres nothing close to that in real life, but if you're telling me you would reject someone who looked like Shadowheart in the basis that shes "too ugly" you're either delusional or simply the hottest piece of ass to ever walk earth so you can be snobbing on others appearance like this.

[Narky]

I legitimately don't know where this delusional idea comes from, OP. The only one that isn't attractive imo (or aren't all over) are Lae'zel and the Githyanki.

Your anime standards are not realistic—neither are the fake glammed up models you probably stalk on Instagram.

[Lamundari]

Originally posted by Draka 1000:

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl:

Im still curious in what radiation waste dump you people live to believe that outside of Shadowheart any of them is "conventionally" attractive . Even she's not actually that though.

Real life? Anime has broken an entire generation, I swear to god. I wont say anything about the others because its useless discussing since its fiction, and theres nothing close to that in real life, but if you're telling me you would reject someone who looked like Shadowheart in the basis that shes "too ugly" you're either delusional or simply the hottest piece of ass to ever walk earth so you can be snobbing on others appearance like this.

"aNiMe hAs bRoKeN aN eNtIrE gEnErAtIoN" Nah . But last i checked with the outside world, conventionally attractive women in reality didn't have pointy years, horns, lumps on their faces, an excuse for a nose and all that jazz. So yeah,none of you people is using the term "conventionally attractive" well. You're just throwing it around . You have no ideea what "conventionally attractive" means.

[Narky]

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl:

Originally posted by Draka 1000:

Real life? Anime has broken an entire generation, I swear to god. I wont say anything about the others because its useless discussing since its fiction, and theres nothing close to that in real life, but if you're telling me you would reject someone who looked like Shadowheart in the basis that shes "too ugly" you're either delusional or simply the hottest piece of ass to ever walk earth so you can be snobbing on others appearance like this.

"aNiMe hAs bRoKeN aN eNtIrE gEnErAtIoN" Nah . But last i checked with the outside world, conventionally attractive women in reality didn't have pointy years, horns, lumps on their faces, an excuse for a nose and all that jazz. So yeah,none of you people is using the term "conventionally attractive" well. You're just throwing it around .

Guess what, you're playing a D&D Fantasy game. Where Tieflings and Elves happen to be among the most popular races players choose to model their characters after.

Holy sh*t you went into this knowing that. I can't elaborate just how f*cking DUMB you have to be with this take.

[Lamundari]

Originally posted by Narky:

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl:

"aNiMe hAs bRoKeN aN eNtIrE gEnErAtIoN" Nah . But last i checked with the outside world, conventionally attractive women in reality didn't have pointy years, horns, lumps on their faces, an excuse for a nose and all that jazz. So yeah,none of you people is using the term "conventionally attractive" well. You're just throwing it around .

Guess what, you're playing a D&D Fantasy game. Where Tieflings and Elves happen to be among the most popular races.

Holy sh*t you went into this knowing that. I can't elaborate just how f*cking DUMB you have to be with this take.

Nah mate you just lack basic semantics. Fantasy game or not they are NOT conventionally attractive . My expectations have no bearing in this simple fact . And even more so, Elves are way beyond conventionally attractive, and they are indeed a fantasy race.

[Drakanoth, One]

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl:

Originally posted by Narky:

Guess what, you're playing a D&D Fantasy game. Where Tieflings and Elves happen to be among the most popular races.

Holy sh*t you went into this knowing that. I can't elaborate just how f*cking DUMB you have to be with this take.

Nah mate you just lack basic semantics. Fantasy game or not they are NOT conventionally attractive . My expectations have no bearing in this simple fact . And even more so, Elves are way beyond conventionally attractive, and they are indeed a fantasy race.

Your expectations do have a bearing in this, though. You guys are the ones defending that you wanted "prettier" characters, its obviously not good enough for you or anyone else trying to make this a problem, acting like you're just giving an opinion based on facts does not change this. You're putting a lot of effort on saying "conventionally attractive", like this somehow changes the fact, that people are trying to defend that they think the characters should look better.

[Lamundari]

Originally posted by Draka 1000:

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl:

Nah mate you just lack basic semantics. Fantasy game or not they are NOT conventionally attractive . My expectations have no bearing in this simple fact . And even more so, Elves are way beyond conventionally attractive, and they are indeed a fantasy race.

Your expectations do have a bearing in this, though. You guys are the ones defending that you wanted "prettier" characters, its obviously not good enough for you or anyone else trying to make this a problem, acting like you're just giving an opinion based on facts does not change this. You're putting a lot of effort on saying "conventionally attractive", like this somehow changes the fact, that people are trying to defend that they think the characters should look better.

No, my expectations don't have a bearing when the term conventionally attractive is used. That's an objective term . My problem is with the term being thrown around. Even if they were attractive, even if some people find them attractive,they wouldn't be conventionally so. And that's a fact . Im not the one using that term. You are.

[Bongoboy]

Originally posted by ✙205🍉🐆→:

Have you seen women in real life? 90% of women look worse than men

Are we talking with or without makeup? I would say all the men in Baldurs Gate 3 wear makeup, and the women don't, lol.

[Drakanoth, One]

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl:

Originally posted by Draka 1000:

Your expectations do have a bearing in this, though. You guys are the ones defending that you wanted "prettier" characters, its obviously not good enough for you or anyone else trying to make this a problem, acting like you're just giving an opinion based on facts does not change this. You're putting a lot of effort on saying "conventionally attractive", like this somehow changes the fact, that people are trying to defend that they think the characters should look better.

No, my expectations don't have a bearing when the term conventionally attractive is used. That's an objective term . My problem is with the term being thrown around. Even if they were attractive, even if some people find them attractive,they wouldn't be conventionally so. And that's a fact . Im not the one using that term. You are.

Why are you putting so much focus on this, my man? Its just a term, not even the OP mentioned this in his original post, the core of the discussion and the name of the topic is that they are "ugly". Who gives a flying coin to what the term conventionally attractive means, its not the point of the discussion. If you're defending the OPs point, then you are siding with him on the basis that you do indeed think they are ugly, its not that hard to grasp.

[Narky]

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl:

Originally posted by Narky:

Guess what, you're playing a D&D Fantasy game. Where Tieflings and Elves happen to be among the most popular races.

Holy sh*t you went into this knowing that. I can't elaborate just how f*cking DUMB you have to be with this take.

Nah mate you just lack basic semantics. Fantasy game or not they are NOT conventionally attractive . My expectations have no bearing in this simple fact . And even more so, Elves are way beyond conventionally attractive, and they are indeed a fantasy race.

In D&D, Elves are actually described as being moderate in height. Drow for example in 5e are generally average around 5 feet, 5 inches tall. High Elves are not that much different. In-fact, they don't look much different from your average human besides skin tone and eye color. Let's not forget that the official art of the Drow actually tends to depict them as being classically sharp-featured (Long ears, chins, high cheekbones, etc).

Then let's take Elder Scrolls Elves; they look even less human and less "conventionally attractive" as you keep throwing around. In-fact, they're somewhat ugly, with many people going out of their way to make mods in order to change this. Let's address, the TES Dunmer, who are their equivalent of Dark Elves - just look at their faces.

You're ascribing to the Tolkienverse Elves which are immaculate and inhumanly beautiful Because they're immortals favored by their Valar-Gods while Humans happen to be the favorite of Eru Ilúvatar (LOTR 'God').

Then we have Warhammer Fantasy Elves — the High Elves who are almost Aryan in appearance and described as Tall (not towering) with thin bodies, and the Druchii (Dark Elves) who are so pallid and pale they're often described as corpses barring the Brides of Khaine (Female Warrior-cultists) and Morathi.

Let's add 40k -- if you look at the official canon art of the Aeldari or Drukhari, they're long bodied, tall, with slender and alien-esque in features.

None of these are "conventionally attractive". But your ideals of beauty are warped.

[Lamundari]

Originally posted by Draka 1000:

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl:

No, my expectations don't have a bearing when the term conventionally attractive is used. That's an objective term . My problem is with the term being thrown around. Even if they were attractive, even if some people find them attractive,they wouldn't be conventionally so. And that's a fact . Im not the one using that term. You are.

Why are you putting so much focus on this, my man? Its just a term, not even the OP mentioned this in his original post, the core of the discussion and the name of the topic is that they are "ugly". Who gives a flying coin to what the term conventionally attractive means, its not the point of the discussion.

?? Almost everybody who said OP is wrong threw that term in . An objective term that doesn't makes sense in this case . So how is it not a point in the discussion? When everybody who dissagreed with op used it ? I mean, come on mate.