interesting Build for Shadowheart?

[VVolf]

Is there a cool way to multiclass Shadowheart as a trickery cleric or is going full cleric always the best for her?

[Indure]

Publicado originalmente por Zangetsu:

Publicado originalmente por RakiaTime:

well if you can respect them or not is up to you, you can however respec them

from CU 22

"In Baldur’s Gate 3, you have the freedom to respec not only your chosen protagonist’s class but also that of your playable companions and pre-authored Origin characters, whether you’re looking to make a few adjustments to their existing build, you’ve got a burning desire to experiment with entirely new playstyles and class combinations, or you just want to create an all-badger supergroup."

That doesnt confirm or not lvl 1 will be locked. I have heard conflicting information that playing as an origin your lvl 1 class is locked as its important to the story.

"In a recent interview with Dropped Frames Game Director Swen Vincke goes on to clarify:

You can respec everything. You can respec through the game. There is a gold price to be paid. Only things that are actually locked in are the subclasses of two of our origin characters when you start playing. When you recruit them. But you can respec them, in any case."

[Marcos_DS]

They said that if you change the base class of your companion, the world (and they themselves) will still see them as their base class - so Shadowheart still is a cleric of shar in her own mind. But you can swap out the class, even the first level if you want.

[RakiaTime]

Publicado originalmente por Indure:

Publicado originalmente por Zangetsu:

That doesnt confirm or not lvl 1 will be locked. I have heard conflicting information that playing as an origin your lvl 1 class is locked as its important to the story.

"In a recent interview with Dropped Frames Game Director Swen Vincke goes on to clarify:

You can respec everything. You can respec through the game. There is a gold price to be paid. Only things that are actually locked in are the subclasses of two of our origin characters when you start playing. When you recruit them. But you can respec them, in any case."

so Shadowhart and Wyll are locked in to Trickery domain and Fiend, im fine with that as long as i can rearrange their attributes

[SomewhereBeyond]

either make her full tempest cleric for dps (rival to sorc) or lvl 1 nature / knowledge cleric / draconic - frost sorc as party face, skill monkey / cc / dd. the only reason i dont like it because it is perfect main character, making most of other combinations useless

[ahsanford]

Publicado originalmente por RakiaTime:

Publicado originalmente por Indure:

If polymorph is in the game I would level her to 7 before multiclassing. Two levels in fighter for action surge, heavy armor and martial weapons would be valuable.

you dont get heavy armor if you multiclass in to a fighter, only if you start as one, now Larisn might have changed that but its how it's supposed to work

If they go full first-level in your new class gets you everything L1 in a single class would get you, is creates problems by effectively rendering the value of Feats to zero.

There would be a ton of 1 level dips just to snag *huge* goodies:

1 level of Rogue would get your 4 skills (2 of which you specialize)
1 level of Fighter gets you the equivalent of 3-4 Feats (Light + Medium + Heavy + Martial)
etc.

But with a watered down 'you only get some of the L1 good stuff', people are still relatively locked out of things that Feats may address down the road.

We'll see if Larian honors 5e here or hooks us up.

- A

[Atari 2600]

Publicado originalmente por RakiaTime:

Publicado originalmente por Indure:

"In a recent interview with Dropped Frames Game Director Swen Vincke goes on to clarify:

You can respec everything. You can respec through the game. There is a gold price to be paid. Only things that are actually locked in are the subclasses of two of our origin characters when you start playing. When you recruit them. But you can respec them, in any case."

so Shadowhart and Wyll are locked in to Trickery domain and Fiend, im fine with that as long as i can rearrange their attributes

No, they are locked when you recruit them at level 1, because they get their sub/domain at level 1, whereas the other classes don't pick until level 2 or 3, so you will naturally pick for all other classes yourself once they hit 2 or 3. Once you go to the respec guy, you can change warlock and cleric subclass/domain just like anyone else. So it's only temporary.

Which is good as Larian picked the least liked cleric sub for Shadowheart, lol.

[Indure]

Publicado originalmente por RakiaTime:

Publicado originalmente por Indure:

"In a recent interview with Dropped Frames Game Director Swen Vincke goes on to clarify:

You can respec everything. You can respec through the game. There is a gold price to be paid. Only things that are actually locked in are the subclasses of two of our origin characters when you start playing. When you recruit them. But you can respec them, in any case."

so Shadowhart and Wyll are locked in to Trickery domain and Fiend, im fine with that as long as i can rearrange their attributes

From the quote you are only locked into them when you start as them or recruit them. Afterwards, Swen made it sound like you could respec however you wish.

[Indure]

Publicado originalmente por ahsanford:

Publicado originalmente por RakiaTime:

you dont get heavy armor if you multiclass in to a fighter, only if you start as one, now Larisn might have changed that but its how it's supposed to work

If they go full first-level in your new class gets you everything L1 in a single class would get you, is creates problems by effectively rendering the value of Feats to zero.

There would be a ton of 1 level dips just to snag *huge* goodies:

1 level of Rogue would get your 4 skills (2 of which you specialize)
1 level of Fighter gets you the equivalent of 3-4 Feats (Light + Medium + Heavy + Martial)
etc.

But with a watered down 'you only get some of the L1 good stuff', people are still relatively locked out of things that Feats may address down the road.

We'll see if Larian honors 5e here or hooks us up.

- A

I could see it going either way. Unlike 5e you can fully respec at anytime in BG3 which allows you to build characters that normally would be terrible in 5e.

For example fighter and wizard multiclass normally wouldn't work because if you want a lot of the perks of fighter you need to take it at level 1 and 2 and you've now slowed down wizard progression so far behind it would be crippling.

But what if you just played a wizard until level 10 and then just respec to have those two original fighter levels and 8 levels of wizard. You still have to give some stuff up, but the transition to the multiclass would be a lot less painful and you would snag con saves, all armor and weapon proficiencies.

[Niteshade]

Publicado originalmente por FunkyMonkey:

Trickery clerics are great, IMO. Their domain spells make them very versatile spell casting cleric. For multiclassing, only if you have a specific plan for it. For example, I'm planning to multiclassing Shadowheart with Arcane trickster rogue (cleric 8 / rogue 4) for few reasons: Arcane trickster gives her Shield spell and couple other nice cantrips and spells, boosts her weapon attacks with sneak attack and gives her Expertise in two skills (like Sleight of hand). I'm doing this because she will be my main ranged weapon attacker (sneak attack buffs that), Shield spell is obvious for survivability and she will be my lockpicker and Expertise helps with that.

I was debating on doing similar with Shadowheart in my game as well , having her handle locking checks if I can't and getting the expertise bonus. Wasn't sure how many levels I wanted to commit to rogue or whether to run her to 3 for thief.
Glad i found someone else trying something similar with Shadowheart and Rogue tho

[cuwepal]

Changed her to spore druid still a wisdom buffer/healer...but with zombies