The real reason humans suck

[Goob🍻]

Humans suck because Larian learned the lesson early. One of the earliest game hotfix posts made a character with all of the most popular customization choices and it was about as bland as you could get
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1086940/view/2896336186738209915

Humans suck because nerds arent creative. This is mostly a joke but reminded me of an old throwback post. Definitely don't forget to go wild with character creation tomorrow!

[SerraShaar]

LOL Oh man, I didn't see that.

Wooow....who would've thought gamers could be this boring!

I got a whole List of playthrough to do! Drow, Elf, Half-Elf...etc, Gonna try all class and check the spell and feel the Nostalgia babeh!

Especially since there is no Alignement to block me anymore! YES!!!

[RakiaTime]

all of my characters will be generic white men named Joe Human just to spite Larian

[Hobocop]

Old D&D memes about human fighters always work.

[Dirty Jack]

The only correct way of playing this game is Straight White Human Male Fighter.
Everything else is wrong.

[Mister Magician]

I hate to break this to you, but you ARE a Human in real life.

[✙205🍉🐆→]

If people suck, why haven't they been made slaves by orcs yet?

[SerraShaar]

Do you mean Humans? Probably because they over-breed like roach. So, they outnumber every other race.

[Seagal]

So, they had clear data on what hundreds of thousands, if not a million plus players wanted to play as, and they decided to take a dump on it, and do everything they could to encourage people to move away from Human and Half-Elf? Nice... Guess that's what they call "improving it".

"We’ve got a lot more analytics that run in the background. We’ll share more insights and data in the next Community Update, but for now, you should know that it’s not just bug reports that help us solve issues and improve the game, we have a system of anonymous analytics running in the background that show us a lot about how the game is played, and thus how we can improve it."

They're fooling themselves if they think this game isn't going to be filled with white men and sexed up female characters made to look as attractive as possible in modded skimpy outfits. Basically Skyrim.

[Bastila Shan]

You do realise they are changing the classes up so humans will no longer just have +1 to all stats but they will have class specific bonuses

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by Seagal:

So, they had clear data on what hundreds of thousands, if not a million plus players wanted to play as, and they decided to take a dump on it, and do everything they could to encourage people to move away from Human and Half-Elf? Nice... Guess that's what they call "improving it".

MMORPGs have been doing this for ages. You'll notice class balance is skewed towards unpopular classes to give players more incentive to roll them, while the most popular FOTM ones get nerfed into the ground for the sake of class distribution. Rogues at one point in WoW made up over 40% of the server population on some realms because of how broken they were back in the World of Roguecraft era. They were somewhat balanced in a fight but having stealth and ambush capabilities was just too good to pass up, especially on new realms when leveling speed was best determined by speed of kills and ability to escape danger.

[Pnume]

Such a surprise!
Most people want to play a character who looks just like them.

I think it's really misguided from Larian to think they should tell the players what they should want!

[Seagal]

Originally posted by Bastila Shan:

You do realise they are changing the classes up so humans will no longer just have +1 to all stats but they will have class specific bonuses

From what was discussed in another topic, the bonuses for Human are laughably bad, and they're basically "pack mules" who are easily the worst race in the game.

Maybe that other thread didn't have correct information, but if Human come out of this looking even weaker than they were, then there's something wrong here. The data shows that people clearly want to play white human men, and if that's the case, then the answer shouldn't be to nerf them.

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

MMORPGs have been doing this for ages. You'll notice class balance is skewed towards unpopular classes to give players more incentive to roll them, while the most popular FOTM ones get nerfed into the ground for the sake of class distribution. Rogues at one point in WoW made up over 40% of the server population on some realms because of how broken they were back in the World of Roguecraft era. They were somewhat balanced in a fight but having stealth and ambush capabilities was just too good to pass up, especially on new realms when leveling speed was best determined by speed of kills and ability to escape danger.

Yeah, yeah, I get it. I played WoW for way longer than I care to admit, but if that's the case here then why is Shield Dwarf getting a clear nerf? Are they getting something to make up for the +2 Str +2 Con they're losing?

This also isn't an MMO, but a single player game that will be easily modded, and it just comes off as a bad look when they do stuff like this and make posts like that. Like, there's a clear agenda at play here.

[ComradePreacher]

It's a bit of a old trophe joke that players who just play humans in RPGs or tabletop games are 'boring'

Races just exists for variation to play, that and worldbuilding.

A party of tieflings means if everyone is special then no one is, there's a bit of that mentality.

I really hope they allow the normal racial modifiers in 1.0 the +2/+1 that is basically custom origin/ancestry is kinda lame.

I'll be playing human like I did before, it's my comfort zone and where I just enjoy roleplaying as than being the other freaky races.

[Goob🍻]

Originally posted by Bastila Shan:

You do realise they are changing the classes up so humans will no longer just have +1 to all stats but they will have class specific bonuses

The post (and larians post long ago) was more a light-hearted jab at people making boring default characters. But yeah i would like to see humans get their plus 1 to all stats, or at least the variant feat. Maybe in the future.

[Jiraboas]

Most people are quite strange, even my fellow d&d and pen and paper players: You have the vast diversity of so different races, beings, monsters and all this, and most people just want to play plane humans.

What by the nine hells is your problem? You can be ANYTHING and you decide to be the same that you already are?

In will never understand that^^"