Melee and dark vision

[Eckoh]

How hampered is melee when they lack the ability to see in the dark??

I am torn on my party setup. My Ranger, Shadowheart, Laz, then Wyll or Gale. Now there is the dark vision ring in the underdark. Gale has to have it to hit anything as his hit rate is almost as bad as shadowhearts... but that leave laz in the dark. Yet she doesn't seem to miss that often.

Just curious if it's not needed as much for melee.

[Sraalok]

Plenty of ways to generate a light source in the game.

[Miqi]

if shadowheart is level 5, just pick Daylight spell and all your problems are resolved, additionally creatures of the dark get disadvantages in the bright light.

[Eckoh]

You can create light but that also makes hiding harder... im not worried about making light, I'm wondering is melee is hurt by fighting in the dark to the same extent as ranged.

[Goose]

If you make an attack roll in darkness without the use of darkvision (or if your vision is somehow obscured), you make your attack roll with "disadvantage." That means the game is rolling for your attack roll twice on the d20, but is using the lower d20 roll. I dont think the game shows this as directly as a game like Solasta does, so you have to kind of dig through the battle text to find it

This goes for any attack roll you make, whether it be melee, ranged, or a spell attack roll

[quaintrealist]

It's more of a challenge at low levels. I gave my NPCs with poor hand-to-hand skills a torch instead of a knife (Gale and Shadowheart) and it wasn't as much of an issue. Getting up close fixes the problem for your fighter to a large degree. Just don't forget that concentration light spells will make you drop concentration on something important at the least opportune time.

[Sunblade]

darkness dsnt matter at all, since most of the time you will have some kind of glowing weapon as the frontline, so your backline sees the enemy anyways

[Eckoh]

Well my ranger is Drow, so she can see farther than she can shoot, that's a non issue. I don't think gith get dark vision though. I was just wondering if there was just a natural 4m vision or not. Seems that there is not.

Shadow is my healer, I count on her for basically nothing. Honestly I think I would rather a bard as its rare I need to use ever turn on healing... I think that only happened in the arcane tower cause they focused Gale.

[Indure]

Darkvision is less crucial for melee characters and if you ever need a melee character to see better the light cantrip from Shadowheart is a super easy fix.

[Eckoh]

Originally posted by Indure:

Darkvision is less crucial for melee characters and if you ever need a melee character to see better the light cantrip from Shadowheart is a super easy fix.

Yes, but it requires concentration... like so many other things...

[Tomatokek]

drows or half drows make good rangers and have dancing lights which can light up a room. Might want to think about that.

[Indure]

Originally posted by jwinslow003:

Originally posted by Indure:

Darkvision is less crucial for melee characters and if you ever need a melee character to see better the light cantrip from Shadowheart is a super easy fix.

Yes, but it requires concentration... like so many other things...

Light does not take concentration.

[Eckoh]

Originally posted by T⭕mat⭕kek:

drows or half drows make good rangers and have dancing lights which can light up a room. Might want to think about that.

Again requires concentration... so no hunters mark or anything else...

[Lucky Mud]

So, to answer the question about melee..
I haven't seen a situation where I couldn't see a melee target well enough. Very important for range, I think probably optional for melee.

[Eckoh]

Originally posted by Maronchan:

So... seems Gith are supposed to have Darkvision. https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Gith_(race)

They do not have it in EA. I just looked, however if that is corrected in live that changes things.

[Riverdusk]

Originally posted by jwinslow003:

Originally posted by T⭕mat⭕kek:

drows or half drows make good rangers and have dancing lights which can light up a room. Might want to think about that.

Again requires concentration... so no hunters mark or anything else...

Sure about that? Neither Light or Daylight spells require concentration, at least according to the wiki:

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Spells

Sorry, Dancing lights does, but as said, the basic light spells don't seem to.