Baldur's Gate 3

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Muppethero Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:43am
Sometimes game journulists are just dumb.
https://gamerant.com/baldurs-gate-3-no-homebrew-gunslinger-class/

why would they? Why would they bring in a non-official D&D class that would break setting immersion
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EruWan Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:48am 
Originally posted by Muppethero:
Sometimes game journulists are just dumb.

Sometimes the game journulists are just dumb. always. all of them
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ComradePreacher Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:48am 
A lot of people who play the tabletop happen to assume the critical role content often shown at wikis and D&DBeyond with the option to have Gunslinger class and a few other subclasses from Matt Mercer. They're not even offical and just happened to be a bit supported.

Though technically renaissance firearms exists in DMG (dungeon master's guide) they are very setting dependent.

Thing is..Gunslinger stuff is based off Pathfinder 1 and the firearms in gunslinger for 5e may look cool but you're better off sticking to the renaissance musket and pistol.
Last edited by ComradePreacher; Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:49am
When I see walking mechanical automaton guards in a city, my suspension for disbelief towards guns becomes a lot more accepting for a fantasy setting.

This might just be my way of saying I'm not a huge fan of the look of the automatons though, but that's only from the trailers and stuff, I'm sure I'll warm up to them once I know the story behind them in the actual game itself!

edit - also just for the record this isn't me advocating for gun classes! I'm just saying I wouldn't find them too out there on a surface level when I see those kinds of things in the city.
Last edited by A Disembodied Intelligence; Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:59am
VolcanoSheep Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:53am 
As someone that knows very little about d&d, but loves BG3, I have to say if I was wandering around the world that's been set up in the EA and came across a gunslinger I'd find that extremely weird and possibly immersion breaking.

It just doesn't seem like the sort of setting with anything more than flintlocks etc.
Nattfare Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:53am 
They could be created by an Artificer, which isn't a playable class in BG3, but still exists in the ruleset.
They could also be a form of golem powered by magic.
Time Traveler Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:54am 
Originally posted by Muppethero:
https://gamerant.com/baldurs-gate-3-no-homebrew-gunslinger-class/

why would they? Why would they bring in a non-official D&D class that would break setting immersion

It almost feels like a joke ariticle that they published online, but it's entirely WoTC's fault with introducing things like laser pistols, antimaterial rifles, and other things like that. (Dungeon Master's Hand Book, 5e, page 268). They tried to add flavor, but now we're getting ideas like those from the journalist.
ComradePreacher Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:56am 
I know 5E from WOTC has recently with some supplement books made a bit of a 'multiverse' gimmick to be able to toss in things that normally wouldn't be in Forgotten Realms, like the magitech from Eberron, warforged and I guess these automatrons. Bombs exists ingame.

Game is still quite medieval fantasy, I know some major cities have gnomish industrialisation a fair bit. But it's still mainly medieval if I remember.

No idea if guns would even be introduced, they require their own proficiency and their stats are fine damage wise but their range is quite low. Bows and crossbows still reign supreme when you have poison to add.
DreadMuse Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:57am 
Ah, it may not be long before some will start making topics here bashing Larian for not introducing Gunslinger. It's how it starts, more fuel for people to complain about something.
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ComradePreacher Jul 29, 2023 @ 3:00am 
Spamming I know, but I want to really be clear. The Gunslinger stuff is OPTIONAL in the tabletop game, it is not default, neither is Artificer technically since they're from Eberron (DM discretion decides to allow content from other books/settings)

The gunslinger is more akin to warhammer fantasy of firearms but some stuff that really might lean towards cowboy-style. It sticks out like a bloody sore thumb depending on setting. The reason it exists in Pathfinder is being a very mixed setting of high fantasy and a lot of sci-fi stuff.
Heretical_Cactus Jul 29, 2023 @ 3:00am 
While Gunslinger shouldn't happen. I could have liked to see Artificer (with Alchemist, Artilerist and Armourer).

Though instead of finding guns you can make them through your class ability
Muppethero Jul 29, 2023 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by Heretical_Cactus:
While Gunslinger shouldn't happen. I could have liked to see Artificer (with Alchemist, Artilerist and Armourer).

Though instead of finding guns you can make them through your class ability
I would wager those will be added via mod. I THINK they maybe. but i dont recall
lordmarsh Jul 29, 2023 @ 3:30am 
I've not kept up with the Lore much in the later editions, but Gunslingers are a bit unlikely to be seen in Forgotten Realms at all if we go by previous editions. Gond, the god of inventors, deliberatly supressed the advent of gunpowder to avoid an upset of balance. Maybe it's changed, maybe not...
Originally posted by lordmarsh:
I've not kept up with the Lore much in the later editions, but Gunslingers are a bit unlikely to be seen in Forgotten Realms at all if we go by previous editions. Gond, the god of inventors, deliberatly supressed the advent of gunpowder to avoid an upset of balance. Maybe it's changed, maybe not...
Hah, that's a fun bit of lore. I like it!
Wolfgang421 Jul 29, 2023 @ 3:34am 
Originally posted by lordmarsh:
I've not kept up with the Lore much in the later editions, but Gunslingers are a bit unlikely to be seen in Forgotten Realms at all if we go by previous editions. Gond, the god of inventors, deliberatly supressed the advent of gunpowder to avoid an upset of balance. Maybe it's changed, maybe not...

Eh, I think Spelljammer kinda worked around it. Having people cruising from other spheres and such.
Яeplicant Jul 29, 2023 @ 3:35am 
Originally posted by lordmarsh:
I've not kept up with the Lore much in the later editions, but Gunslingers are a bit unlikely to be seen in Forgotten Realms at all if we go by previous editions. Gond, the god of inventors, deliberatly supressed the advent of gunpowder to avoid an upset of balance. Maybe it's changed, maybe not...

Then there's also this:

https://twitter.com/Wizards_DnD/status/1684971988098457629

Perhaps they are going back on it these days, I dunno. Not up to date with my D&D knowledge.
Last edited by Яeplicant; Jul 29, 2023 @ 3:36am
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