Rays and Stealth Attack

[Lord Umbra]

In Pathfinder, I was able to create builds with an arcane trickster to perform stealth attacks per die roll with rays. I was curious if such a thing is possible in Baldur's Gate 3? Has anyone knowledge on this? And yes, I know these are separate games, but they have similarities.

[seed oil consumer]

i dunno sorry

[zombygunner]

i dont think you can because the sneak isnt really viable in this game. unless its changed. i wonder if your here because of the spyware from pathfinder? I told several people that they would be flooding here after they did that

[seed oil consumer]

if they're going to allow pathfinder people to post in here they better be handing out deodorant at the door

[zombygunner]

what does that even mean?

[Delta Centauri]

Should be able to build a Rogue and sneak attack as long as enemies don't detect you, think in the final build you could even go pure Rogue and take a feat to get the Cantrip Eldritch Blast or Fire Bolt. Only problem in DnD Sneak Attack is once per round from what I get playing.

Also hopefully they fixed the AI, otherwise you can Sneak at the end of a round and enemies would just sit there not trying to go to your last known location in-combat.

[Lord Umbra]

Originally posted by Delta Centauri:

Should be able to build a Rogue and sneak attack as long as enemies don't detect you, think in the final build you could even go pure Rogue and take a feat to get the Cantrip Eldritch Blast or Fire Bolt. Only problem in DnD Sneak Attack is once per round from what I get playing.

Also hopefully they fixed the AI, otherwise you can Sneak at the end of a round and enemies would just sit there not trying to go to your last known location in-combat.

I am certain we can sneak attack. What I am curious of is can I do it with ray spells? In another game, we could perform a sneak attack per die roll when a ray was cast. it was absurd damage, but a load of fun.

[Zaris]

Originally posted by Lord Umbra:

I am certain we can sneak attack. What I am curious of is can I do it with ray spells? In another game, we could perform a sneak attack per die roll when a ray was cast. it was absurd damage, but a load of fun.

Sneak attack of the rogue is its own skill here for melee / ranged and not a passive bonus like in Pathfinder so no not possible.

[Delta Centauri]

From the rulebook it looks like you wouldn't be able to Sneak Attack with spells at all...
Sneak Attack requites a Finessable or Ranged weapon attack. But either way even if they allowed it, like I was saying; only one Sneak Attack in a given round. Doesn't matter if you Scorching Ray, for example.

[Edstyles]

the sneak attack feature is separate from any other spell. so they cant be mixed in ea at least

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

I think it would only trigger on the melee cantrips, you cant however do ranged sneak attacks in 5e i don't believe.

Edit:

" Once per turn, you can deal an extra 1d6 damage to one creature you hit with an attack if you have advantage on the attack roll. The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon. "

From the players hand book specifically has to be a finesse weapon or a ranged attack so nope, no ray sneak attacks though i do think the melee cantrips would work. Since its a melee attack that hits with a weapon.

[Silberfuchs]

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

I think it would only trigger on the melee cantrips, you cant however do ranged sneak attacks in 5e i don't believe.

You can 100% sneak attack with a bow, throwing weapons etc in 5e.

Meanwhile sneak attacking with spells is a nono. DM's might allow it with melee cantrips but that's up to the DM in charge.

[Lord Umbra]

Alright, those are good answers. Thank you.

[Bramhar]

"attack roll" is the key description.

[Muppethero]

I am going to make a build right now and test it. I have WEMOD so i can jump to lvl 7

[ComradePreacher]

You can only do sneak attacks with finesse or ranged weapons. No spells