Drow Lore not matching previous BG games

[Pelican-1]

I was playing BG2 to pass the time waiting for BG3 to release and I came across some dialogue with Viconia, the Drow. She states "The drow wish to rule, as do duergar, kuo-toa... even illithids, but our feet are clay. We distrust each other almost more than other races...."
Then it was proven right in front of me, when a Drow priestess murdered another Drow over a slave- she claimed he was easier to replace than a trained slave as the male drow was begging not to be killed. the priestess states that she has "other sons" and murders him outright.

Then I recall that my character in BG3 was of the Drow(female), and NOT of the lolth-kind.

While I was freeing the male Drow from the rubble in BG3 (where the duergar/forge is located) the drow was actually furious with the duergar for not being fast enough in freeing him from the rubble, and when he spoke to me I had drow options for dialogue. When chosen, he had 0 issues with me and wanted to help my situation.

This might be a small issue for most of you guys but from my understanding of BG lore, both male and female drow despise and often kill each other for little to no reason, specially the female drow having no remorse for the males, like a spider after mating, would kill the male drow with no hesitation.

According to BG1 and 2 lore, the part in BG3 when I freed the male drow from the rubble (Nere), me being a drow and a female at that, this "Nere" would have been 100% paranoid OR simply hostile towards my kind or possibly kill on sight. Instead the game has me pick his side or the side of the duergar. "After a conflictive conversation between Nere and Brithvar, you will have to choose a side between them.". There wouldn't be a side to choose according to BG2 and what happens in the underdark with Viconia in your party.

This was one of my main concerns with BG3, how much did they actually know of BG1 and 2 lore to keep the story concrete? Hopefully it can be addressed. Lore is everything.. without lore, your game/any game is aimless.

[Muppethero]

BG 1 and 2 Used D&D 2e. LOTS HAS CHANGED from 2e to 5e. like a lot a lot.

[Osaka from Azumanga Daioh]

between bg2 and bg3 couple of DND generations passed, they do stuff accodring to modern lore, not bg2-era lore.

one of the reasons i'd prefer just original sin 3, where larian had full freedom

[Ghost]

Not seeing the problem here? The Drow are a matriarchal society, the men little better than slaves. The males are subservient, or else.

They still see themselves superior to the other Underdark races such as the Duergar.

"...specially the female drow having no remorse for the males, like a spider after mating, would kill the male drow with no hesitation." - might want to watch out for Minthara.

*Also the lore has changed somewhat over the 20 years, and WotC took the nuclear option for lore/canon.

[Knightspace]

It's a Baldur's Gate game in the name and some guest characters only. Everything else is both new and based on the 5th edition of D&D, rather than old editions of AD&D.

Half of it is on Larian, half on WOTC.

[zero]

to no surprise: the lore of D&D has changed a lot over the past 2 decades.

it should also be noticed a century as passed by since bg2, so there is ample reason to update it

[Pelican-1]

Originally posted by Muppethero:

BG 1 and 2 Used D&D 2e. LOTS HAS CHANGED from 2e to 5e. like a lot a lot.

It's odd that they are stating that we're gonna have a BG1-2 character appearance then, don't you think? lol I feel like Larian F'ed up... or someone at the studios may have forgotten the lore.

[SerraShaar]

Lore isn't everything though. Some games create tons of lores and peoples fall in love with it, but then BAM! Here come a sequel, and the creators just forget about Lore.

Don't get hang on Lore. They are written by Humans after all. Things changes, and sometimes stuff just don't fit a new Vision.

That's what writers do.

[Ephemerant]

Drow society is Matriarchal. If you didn't tell them you weren't Lolthsworn, it'd be in their best interest to help you or get flayed when returning to Drow society.

It's a very complex structure actually. Matron-led family houses vying for control and constantly backstabbing. Men are the "second class citizens."

If you're interested in learning more about it. I highly recommend the Dark Elf Trilogy of books from R.A. Salvatore. He pretty much singlehandedly put the Drow on the map in the Forgotten Realms.

[Pelican-1]

Originally posted by zero:

to no surprise: the lore of D&D has changed a lot over the past 2 decades.

it should also be noticed a century as passed by since bg2, so there is ample reason to update it

The lore of Drow is longer than a few generations of DnD. now all of a sudden it's different? but when picking Drow dialogue it insists that the drow are still sticking to their origins... I just think they F'ed up.

[Pelican-1]

Originally posted by SerraShaar:

Lore isn't everything though. Some games create tons of lores and peoples fall in love with it, but then BAM! Here come a sequel, and the creators just forget about Lore.

Don't get hang on Lore. They are written by Humans after all. Things changes, and sometimes stuff just don't fit a new Vision.

That's what writers do.

Yeah well, they dropped the ball regardless. Drow aren't supposed to act as such according to ANY of the DnD lore of their race.

[Squigalicious]

D&D got woke, they then proceed to sterilize the lore. Nothing more to it than that.

[Lord Adorable]

Yes, things have changed quite a bit from 2e to 5e.

[zero]

Originally posted by booger_911:

Originally posted by zero:

to no surprise: the lore of D&D has changed a lot over the past 2 decades.

it should also be noticed a century as passed by since bg2, so there is ample reason to update it

The lore of Drow is longer than a few generations of DnD. now all of a sudden it's different? but when picking Drow dialogue it insists that the drow are still sticking to their origins... I just think they F'ed up.

its almost as if things can change in a century yes.

it's not like the core of drow are gone they still are more or less set in their ways, but that doesn't mean they are static.

it's not "sudden" in any stretch really, just cause you weren't around for it.

[WastingSanity]

I know more 2e Drow. In short women were in charge and men were subservient. There was feuding among the Drow, houses would go to war with each other. They were ruthless and the women in power would kill those below them if they believed that they failed them.

At least that is how I recall it.

[Pelican-1]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Not seeing the problem here? The Drow are a matriarchal society, the men little better than slaves. The males are subservient, or else.

They still see themselves superior to the other Underdark races such as the Duergar.

*Also the lore has changed somewhat over the 20 years, and WotC took the nuclear option for lore/canon.

My drow is female, and Nere is male XD I should have been kill on sight. period.
especially that Im not of the Lolth.