Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

View Stats:
This topic has been locked
pahrias Jun 23, 2023 @ 1:39pm
Alignments
Are they going to be a thing in full release? Im enjoying the prologue but its annoying me a little that theres no alignment section for character info/creation. Would be nice to know what my party's overall alignment is rather than having to wait for them to react to what I do to figure it out. If I want the evil play through then Gith girl seems logical, but not sure about pretty vamp boy. He could swing either way. And cleric acts all goody two shoes but does worship a god of darkness, and her memories might be that of an evil cleric. Dont know about the other ones yet, not played with them much.

Also, do we know if there are going to be more than just the base "heroes" to join the party? I'd love to see some classic characters come in, though not sure how long after/before the events of BG2 this game is set, so maybe Imoen or minsc are off the table, but there were some elf and dwarf ones. Either way some more characters would be nice.
Originally posted by Hobocop:
There will very likely not be alignments in the full game.

Minsc and Jaheria have been confirmed as potential companions. Minsc is still around after having been freed from being petrified.
< >
Showing 1-15 of 174 comments
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Hobocop Jun 23, 2023 @ 1:43pm 
There will very likely not be alignments in the full game.

Minsc and Jaheria have been confirmed as potential companions. Minsc is still around after having been freed from being petrified.
Sonic Titan Jun 23, 2023 @ 1:50pm 
Oh goodness, this will end well.
Hard to take this post seriously considering it's been in the forum many many times but because the nature of it is more about companions I'll take it at face value.

Alignment doesn't belong as the forefront of the story or character anymore than someone leading with their race, gender, etc. The obvious need not be stated and the nature of who someone is, is the adventure in getting to know them. Alignment has a huge part of the D&D adventure just not as a visible tool for the character it's use is in world building and the interactions between the character, powerful beings, and society at large and those things should happen behind the scenes either by the DM or in this case the game itself.

Now I can understand the desire to know up front what a companions disposition is but that's where realism and mechanics might blur. Not sure what the right answer is there.
Last edited by Vixziค็็็็็n; Jun 23, 2023 @ 1:56pm
Rusted Metal Jun 23, 2023 @ 2:00pm 
No, they will not be adding alignment, wotc told larian to move away from alignments. They have made it more my dynamic rather then the strict system

Minsc, jaheria and karlach are the other characters we will be able to recruit at full launch.
Yojo0o Jun 23, 2023 @ 2:11pm 
This topic comes up a lot, so brace yourself.

Doubtful. 5e is moving away from alignment being an important thing to character creation. In tabletop, there's more focus on your ideals/bonds/flaws, as well as class-specific RP considerations such as the nature of a paladin's oath or the wording of a warlock's pact. BG3 seems to follow this trend, with characters defining their morality by their actions and words, rather than by their character sheet. Good/evil and law/chaos still very much exist, but aren't explicitly spelled out mechanically for our characters.
Last edited by Yojo0o; Jun 23, 2023 @ 2:12pm
No line mints.
Aldain Jun 23, 2023 @ 3:03pm 
The ride never ends...

But yeah what everyone else is saying, nothing strict and most people will probably be able to notice which dialog options would be which without it being labeled imo.
Mathalis Jun 23, 2023 @ 3:42pm 
Originally posted by Vixzian:
Hard to take this post seriously considering it's been in the forum many many times but because the nature of it is more about companions I'll take it at face value.

Alignment doesn't belong as the forefront of the story or character anymore than someone leading with their race, gender, etc. The obvious need not be stated and the nature of who someone is, is the adventure in getting to know them. Alignment has a huge part of the D&D adventure just not as a visible tool for the character it's use is in world building and the interactions between the character, powerful beings, and society at large and those things should happen behind the scenes either by the DM or in this case the game itself.

Now I can understand the desire to know up front what a companions disposition is but that's where realism and mechanics might blur. Not sure what the right answer is there.
I get your point, but for those people who just enjoyed BG 1 and 2 and are not really major DnD fans, they probably enjoyed building full good parties and full bad parties. It is easy to see why that is enjoyable for people.
Quillithe Jun 23, 2023 @ 3:43pm 
Notably not having alignments on character sheets means that characters can have more natural secrets.

Unlike something like Pathfinder: WotR where a single character has hidden alignment. Which kinda ruins a plot twist since it's obviously hidden for a reason.
Originally posted by Aldain:
The ride never ends...

But yeah what everyone else is saying, nothing strict and most people will probably be able to notice which dialog options would be which without it being labeled imo.

https://youtu.be/0U2zJOryHKQ
Originally posted by Quillithe:
Notably not having alignments on character sheets means that characters can have more natural secrets.

Unlike something like Pathfinder: WotR where a single character has hidden alignment. Which kinda ruins a plot twist since it's obviously hidden for a reason.

This ^^^
Aldain Jun 23, 2023 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by Quillithe:
Notably not having alignments on character sheets means that characters can have more natural secrets.

Unlike something like Pathfinder: WotR where a single character has hidden alignment. Which kinda ruins a plot twist since it's obviously hidden for a reason.
Ugh, don't remind me about that character.

A friend threw a code for WotR at me recently (partly out of spite/trolling because they know I don't enjoy Owlcat's gameplay) and honestly that character is just the worst...and even worse than that there's another character who technically does the whole "false alignment" thing better with actual justifications beyond "hur dur evul".
Last edited by Aldain; Jun 23, 2023 @ 4:06pm
pahrias Jun 23, 2023 @ 4:15pm 
OK, I can deal with that. Bit disappointing, but I can understand the reasoning at least. Not a table top (if thats even the correct term) player of the DnD games so I only have BG1 and 2 to go from and that was very much about party building around alignment. At least from what I can remember. Though it did get a bit spicy if you had some evil characters mixed in with good ones lol.

And great about Minsc! cant wait for Him and Boo to join my party again! Though I have to admit, Jaheria I could take or leave. She was a bit insufferable at times in the older games. 2 especially, unless you romanced her. Hope there will be some other notable characters, even if its only cameos. Though, naturally, Id love to have Drizzt join the team but that seems unlikely.
Metallicus Jun 23, 2023 @ 4:32pm 
WotC bought one of the most beloved IPs of all time and decided to screw with it until it is unrecognizable. The good news is you can play older versions of the game pre-WotC for table top. Sadly, we need to deal with the WotC watered down DnD for newer content such as this game. It will still be fun, but at more of a superficial level since the soul of the game was removed in the interest of modern day sentiments and convenience.
Rusted Metal Jun 23, 2023 @ 5:55pm 
oh no.
< >
Showing 1-15 of 174 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Jun 23, 2023 @ 1:39pm
Posts: 172