Will Dragonborns have a option to have wings?

[mech654]

I hope so. That would be cool.

[Commander_Ryuk]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Originally posted by DDkiki:

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They have tail as an option it seems.

Well I don't like that at all. The tail indicates the being isn't a Dragonborn because dragonborn never have tails. They are created beings, and they were created without wings or tails, so having a natural tail also doesn't sit well with me. Man this day is just one sad thing after another it seems. :cozypoesad:

Technically speaking in a official DND book Wild mount, a variant dragon born option does have tails.

[Spoonardo]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Originally posted by DDkiki:

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They have tail as an option it seems.

Well I don't like that at all. The tail indicates the being isn't a Dragonborn because dragonborn never have tails.

Actually, that's not entirely true. As per official lore, dragonborn CAN have tails. However, most dragonborn see having a tail as a deformity. "A rare, few individuals were born with tails, but this was seen as a deformity by the dragonborn."

[Nihrahk]

Originally posted by Hobocop:

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Yeah, that would be pretty OP. I can definitely see mods giving them wings and basically turn them into half dragons or draconians though. Outside of mods, isn't there also a spell that grants you wings?

Fly is a 3rd level spell available from level 5 onwards for wizards and sorcerers. Perhaps not visually distinct, but it's there.

Dragon Sorcerers can manifest wings at 14th level, but we're not getting there in BG3 for the moment officially.

I thought so. I guess for dragon sorcerers just sprouting out wings will be something exclusive to mods unless they increase the level cap later. There's a fair amount of level cap mods already after all.

[Spoonardo]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

No. Dragonborn are human like dragon beings. They don't have wings or tails. Anything that does have wings or tails that looks like a dragon is a different being, and tends to be an evil monster in the world, not a dragonborn.

Except for gem dragonborn, which do have the ability to manifest spectral wings. Too bad they aren't in the game, but maybe they'll add Fizban's content in the future.

[Spoonardo]

Originally posted by mech654:

I hope so. That would be cool.

The type of draconic lineage for the dragonborn currently in the game don't have wings (chromatic and metallic), however, if they release gem dragonborn from Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, those dragons are able to manifest spectral wings. Maybe in a future DLC?

[The Reign Man]

Going by the books lore, no they dont have tails.

But as with anything, if the DM and players want it, then there's LITERALLY no reason for them not to have tails.

So if you create YOURS dont put a tail on it and STFU and HAVE SOME FCKING FUN.

Crybaby.

[Sigvuld]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Originally posted by DDkiki:

Honestly i just don't care. Dragonborn lore is pretty stupid and race was very badly done. They are not dragon and not born from them, so we always handwaved their official lore and homeruled into actual draconians.
So we are having dragonborns with tails now. Its nice. Its cool. Tails are awesome.

THAT'S THE POINT THOUGH.... If they were born from them they'd have those things!
They were created by a magical means to be the dragon's slaves on the alternate planet and there are representations on Toriel of the ones that have wings and tails, so it sucks to me that Larian is just mixing and matching that.
I'm too sad for this now. Good night folks.

I think you're overthinking this so much my man

When all you can do on the topic is repeatedly say "but... but they don't! they DON'T have those! they don't have those because... well, they don't! and it makes sense, because... it says they don't!" because the lore on them not having it has never been that deep and it's literally just how they chose to design the race?

You need to just admit that that's all there is to it. It's just because they were designed that way, and no lore is being trampled upon when they DO have tails, they don't get some sort of goofy mechanical advantage over literally every other race in the game with free flight from level 1, nothing is adversely affected. You are so desperate to speak on this from an unassailable perspective forged of pure logic, but you can't, because there's no logic BEHIND why they don't have tails, they just kinda don't in regular 5e

It's fine that BG3 gave them tails (if they did, I assume that pic's indication), they're still the same dragonborn lmao

D&D's OWN OFFICIAL, LICENSED WRITING states that they want you to get creative when you'd like things to be different, and Larian seem to think Dragonborn look more fun with tails. Considering the Dark Urge character doesn't have a tail, it's either Dragonborn don't actually get tails, or you can choose not to have them. Now everyone's happy except people who try to be purists about soft background lore that is, BY DESIGN, flexible for this very purpose

[KaffeeRausch]

Dragonborn with wings?
I'd be for a compromise, they bring in the optional races feat's.

That would be "Dragon Fear", "Dragon Hide" and "Dragon Wings (UA)".

Dragonborn cannot see in the dark, fly, or have natural armor from takeoff.
This breath weapon + resistance is normally the only thing they can do. which is unfortunately weak, I would also prefer "Fizban's Treasury of Dragons" rules.

[Adam__86]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Originally posted by DDkiki:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386313918240391168/1124083740012970064/3b8ec3cc6f3c9bba563994490fb4b7c069f40943.png
They have tail as an option it seems.

Well I don't like that at all. The tail indicates the being isn't a Dragonborn because dragonborn never have tails. They are created beings, and they were created without wings or tails, so having a natural tail also doesn't sit well with me. Man this day is just one sad thing after another it seems.

I wish my life was as perfect that the only concern for my day was fictional beings having tails or not

[Beewo]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Originally posted by DDkiki:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386313918240391168/1124083740012970064/3b8ec3cc6f3c9bba563994490fb4b7c069f40943.png
They have tail as an option it seems.

Well I don't like that at all. The tail indicates the being isn't a Dragonborn because dragonborn never have tails. They are created beings, and they were created without wings or tails, so having a natural tail also doesn't sit well with me. Man this day is just one sad thing after another it seems. :cozypoesad:

Canonically a few have tails but its seen as a deformity by the rest of the dragonborn, if that makes you feel a bit better about it.

[Alsander and Ciaran]

holy the big sad from a huge e5 geek

[Bokune]

Have a Nice day Ronin I don't get you but I respect you. To the trolls (you know who you are) you suck as always, and to the few (more than just a few surprisingly) that kept it civil good on ya.

[Captain_Draco]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

No. Dragonborn are human like dragon beings. They don't have wings or tails. Anything that does have wings or tails that looks like a dragon is a different being, and tends to be an evil monster in the world, not a dragonborn.

Iirc in 3.5 they could gain a Paragon Path that let them gain wings and all breath elements.

[Amelia]

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