So Larian removed the dream temptation character

[Zoommeeting]

And replaced it with "Guardian". A dull, sexless character in full armor.

That is according to information from those who tried the game:

"In Early Access, after we created our character and were ready to venture forth, we were asked "Who do you dream of?" and were able to set the race and appearance of a second character in a floaty lilac robe.

In the build I saw at the event in Ghent, this was different. For my custom Tav at least, I was instead told "You need a guardian, choose one" and the character we could configure was dressed accordingly, in a slightly paladiny/crusadery way. I'm speculating that Larian have listened to folk who found the original Daisy disturbingly creepy and have reworked this interaction. Personally, I quite liked the creepiness, but freely admit it didn't work for all my planned protagonists, let alone all players, so I'm quite glad there seems to have been a bit of a rethink."

[Gaius]

I hope this is BS, frankly. The whole idea was you trying to resist seduction by an obviously malign entity.

[Aria Athena]

If it means I don't have to create a second character, I'm okay with this. I need to start playing at some point.

[.Master Jiren, The Strongest]

Hopefully this is bunk. The loudest minority ruining things for the majority has become a trend for the human race as a whole and its way past "gotten old".

Don't play adult games if you're not mature enough to handle adult concepts. It isnt the games job to cater to you. Games are created and you can choose to buy them, play them, or not.

With this character removed, the tadpole might as well not exist, since it has 0 impact on anything else in the game except you'll eventually wake up with a brand new shiny super power that has absolutely no consequences. Cool.

It sounds more like they just had multiple builds and let people play test them and then take in user review to see how people received the different concepts. This is normal. I'd be surprised if they decided to scrap such a core concept to the game especially the main driving force behind the entire games plot.

[Shoob]

Meanwhile, people have been on them since DOS about not being able to switch character leading the conversation mid-talk...

[Dex]

Source?

[Wubbinz]

Originally posted by Shoob:

Meanwhile, people have been on them since DOS about not being able to switch character leading the conversation mid-talk...

I too wish for more party dialogue, less 1-1 dialogue.

[Thaddeus]

For the first time in modern history, they change something in favor of the straight people, who accidentally made a male "dream" character for their male custom character. Which considered a minority.

You people should be more happy for this change, and stop this bigotry.
Acceptance <3

[Zoommeeting]

Originally posted by Dex:

Source?

From larian moderator from their official forum:

https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=857641&page=13

"Larian forums moderator:

In Early Access, after we created our character and were ready to venture forth, we were asked "Who do you dream of?" and were able to set the race and appearance of a second character in a floaty lilac robe.

In the build I saw at the event in Ghent, this was different. For my custom Tav at least, I was instead told "You need a guardian, choose one" and the character we could configure was dressed accordingly, in a slightly paladiny/crusadery way. I'm speculating that Larian have listened to folk who found the original Daisy disturbingly creepy and have reworked this interaction. Personally, I quite liked the creepiness, but freely admit it didn't work for all my planned protagonists, let alone all players, so I'm quite glad there seems to have been a bit of a rethink. Of course, it's anyone's guess what this means for the actual Daisy interactions in game, and as I only rested once and didn't dream (not even a "Where are you?" despite having used my illithid power to free SH from the pod), I have no insight to offer on that front.

We'll have to wait and see whether we're able to have a bit more control over the nature of the relationship with Daisy, or whether the relationship will still be the same for all but of a different kind. But still, I found it interesting that this change has been made, and I know that for some folk here at least that will be something of a relief.

EDIT Just updated to clarify this was only for a custom character. I'm not sure what happens for origins, and whether their Daisies might be specific individuals from their stories, such as Cazador for Astarion. I'm guessing the origin character "Daisy" dream sequences might be quite different, though that's speculation."

[fluong]

While I am disappointed, as I was curious about the place of the Dream Lover within the larger story, I am eager to find out how this new Guardian is going to work out.

[zeeb]

Very disappointed in Larian's recent decisions. I have to remove my support of them entirely from now on, such a shame. I really felt they could be that special developer team but they seem to be just another liberal puppet.

Such a shame and what a waste of potential.

[Wubbinz]

Originally posted by Loyalist ✠:

For the first time in modern history, they change something in favor of the straight people, who accidentally made a male "dream" character for their male custom character. Which considered a minority.

You people should be more happy for this change, and stop this bigotry.
Acceptance <3

That's a lot of heresy from an alleged loyalist. I smell chaos.

[Actalo]

Well, considering all the posts about "consent" and 'bear hugging', it doesn't surprise me there would be a vocal minority complaining about the "dream temptation character".

For my part, I just roleplayed it as an idealized reflection of desire - playing a Seldarine drow, I made a high elf dream character as my character's desire to mend the schism between Corellon Larethian and Lolth's progeny - or break free from the curse resulting from that schism.

So, yeah, if it's true, then I'm not pleased with the change.

[Aldain]

I don't really care honestly, but that wasn't really a draw to me in the first place.

[Thaddeus]

Originally posted by Paton:

Originally posted by Loyalist ✠:

For the first time in modern history, they change something in favor of the straight people, who accidentally made a male "dream" character for their male custom character. Which considered a minority.

You people should be more happy for this change, and stop this bigotry.
Acceptance <3

That's a lot of heresy from an alleged loyalist. I smell chaos.

Based, brother.
Based.

[Like a Sir.]

Originally posted by .Master Jiren, The Strongest:

Hopefully this is bunk. The loudest minority ruining things for the majority has become a trend for the human race as a whole and its way past "gotten old".

Don't play adult games if you're not mature enough to handle adult concepts. It isnt the games job to cater to you. Games are created and you can choose to buy them, play them, or not.

With this character removed, the tadpole might as well not exist, since it has 0 impact on anything else in the game except you'll eventually wake up with a brand new shiny super power that has absolutely no consequences. Cool.

It sounds more like they just had multiple builds and let people play test them and then take in user review to see how people received the different concepts. This is normal. I'd be surprised if they decided to scrap such a core concept to the game especially the main driving force behind the entire games plot.

Well, from the Fextralife dude's video it really does sound like the tadpole is giving us a mythic powers system. During our play through we are harvesting the tadpoles from the "true-souls" to boost our tadpole powers. Also, they confirmed that the dream character becomes a guardian instead.