HEXBLADE FEATURES HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED

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Larian reworked the pact of the blade and added the charisma modifier from the hexblade subclass
Source : https://multiplayer.it/articoli/baldurs-gate-3-intervistata-lead-system-designer-larian.html

[Ephemerant]

Not having Hexblade hurts it more than just not having HBC. Unless it comes with Pact of the Blade, not having Medium Armor proficiency is really going to hurt a Warlock that wants to fight melee. It's the whole reason Hexblade was made, to shore up the inadequacy of Pact of the Blade as a frontline fighter.

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Originally posted by Blackdragon:

Originally posted by Jake Paul fan:

A goolock multiclass is gonna be insane with the pally's extra attack, his new feature frighten enemies whenever you crit someone

Frightening enemies on crit is not that OP, Battle Master fighters already have frighten on hit as a maneuver.

The goolock's frighten is an AOE in BG3, that's some serious CC

[Foolswalkin]

Is it me, or the translation, or does it seem like the designer was unaware of Thirsting Blade?

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by Jake Paul fan:

Originally posted by Blackdragon:

Frightening enemies on crit is not that OP, Battle Master fighters already have frighten on hit as a maneuver.

The goolock's frighten is an AOE in BG3, that's some serious CC

Yeah but it's also on a *crit*, which means like 1 or 2 out of every 20 attacks. Battlemasters can use the maneuver whenever they wish, and they have several maneuvers per short rest.

[Dinvan]

Originally posted by Foolswalkin:

Is it me, or the translation, or does it seem like the designer was unaware of Thirsting Blade?

I'll be honest, every time I hear sven or any one at larian talk about D&D it irks me, like when he said level 20's are like gods.........in a world where actual gods and demi gods exist and are FAR more powerful than level 20's.........FFS

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by Foolswalkin:

Is it me, or the translation, or does it seem like the designer was unaware of Thirsting Blade?

It certainly feels like Larian was unaware of a lot of things. Like how the hell could they forget to add Shield spell during all three years of Early Access, and only shove it in at the last minute? It's literally the main defensive spell for Arcane casters...

[cire87]

what is a hexblade ?

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by cire87:

what is a hexblade ?

Subclass for Warlock in DnD. It's a very popular, if somewhat abused, class that lets you use charisma as your melee damage stat, making warlocks into hard hitting melee fighters, essentially.

I say it's abused because SO many people use it as a dip in multiclassing because of how viable it is.

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by Dinvan:

Originally posted by Foolswalkin:

Is it me, or the translation, or does it seem like the designer was unaware of Thirsting Blade?

I'll be honest, every time I hear sven or any one at larian talk about D&D it irks me, like when he said level 20's are like gods.........in a world where actual gods and demi gods exist and are FAR more powerful than level 20's.........FFS

In 3.5 edition D&D 20th level spellcasters WERE "like gods" in almost everything but name. And then, of course, you got Epic levels, and the possibility of actual ascension to Godhood - where you could literally fight other gods.

5.0 D&D is a pale shadow of that former power. Not only are 20th level characters much, much weaker now, but there are no more epic levels, and no divine ascension possible. Hell, you can't even become a lich or vampire properly anymore (at most you'll turn your character into a DM-controlled NPC).

[Dinvan]

Originally posted by cire87:

what is a hexblade ?

A warlock subclass focused on melee from Xanathars Guide to Everything.

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Originally posted by cire87:

what is a hexblade ?

Subclass for Warlock in DnD. It's a very popular, if somewhat abused, class that lets you use charisma as your damage stat and lets warlocks become melee fighters, essentially.

I say it's abused because SO many people use it as a dip in multiclassing.

Dipping a class is not "abuse". Multiclassing is not "abuse". Using spells and abilities the way they are written and intended is not "abuse". And no, rules are not written and intended to make sure that every single character and every single player are all equal in every single way.

Is castling in chess "abuse"? Is a gambit "abuse"? Well, same thing here. In fact, D&D is and has been a lot like chess, but too many people want to view it as a "feel good game" and get angry when somebody plays it better than them.

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by Blackdragon:

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Subclass for Warlock in DnD. It's a very popular, if somewhat abused, class that lets you use charisma as your damage stat and lets warlocks become melee fighters, essentially.

I say it's abused because SO many people use it as a dip in multiclassing.

Dipping a class is not "abuse". Multiclassing is not "abuse". Using spells and abilities the way they are written and intended is not "abuse". And no, rules are not written and intended to make sure that every single character and every single player are all equal in every single way.

Read my message again. I'm not saying any of those are abuse. I'm saying the subclass is abused because people dip into it so much, making it a point of contention for some players and DMs alike.

I don't really care. I like hexblade and literally said above I'm gonna try doing a hexblade multiclass.

[Dinvan]

Originally posted by Blackdragon:

Originally posted by Dinvan:

I'll be honest, every time I hear sven or any one at larian talk about D&D it irks me, like when he said level 20's are like gods.........in a world where actual gods and demi gods exist and are FAR more powerful than level 20's.........FFS

In 3.5 edition D&D 20th level spellcasters WERE "like gods" in almost everything but name. And then, of course, you got Epic levels, and the possibility of actual ascension to Godhood - where you could literally fight other gods.

5.0 D&D is a pale shadow of that former power. Not only are 20th level characters much, much weaker now, but there are no more epic levels, and no divine ascension possible. Hell, you can't even become a lich or vampire properly anymore (at most you'll turn your character into a DM-controlled NPC).

I think we played different 3.5 edition because I never remember ascending to god hood.....or having rules to do so.....wish was the closest you would come and that is a monkey paw if you have any where near a competent DM.

You are more like super heroes, Doctor strange and thor than actual gods. Read the lore on what just demi gods can do then compare that to a level 20.

For instance, Elminster is level 40 by lore and NOT a god. daurgothoth is a level 20 wizard, level 20 sorc, leve 5 arch mage and a draco lich.....not a god.

level 20 is not even that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ special.

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Originally posted by Blackdragon:

Dipping a class is not "abuse". Multiclassing is not "abuse". Using spells and abilities the way they are written and intended is not "abuse". And no, rules are not written and intended to make sure that every single character and every single player are all equal in every single way.

Read my message again. I'm not saying any of those are abuse. I'm saying it's abused because people dip into so much, making it a point of contention for some players and DMs alike.

You said then and repeat it now that dipping is "abused". There is only one way to understand it, and the fact that you refer to a "contention" between "some players and DMs" confirms it.

Again, it's not an "abuse" to dip a class in a multiclass build. More often than not it is actually a short-term nerf to the character, in favour of a long-term game (i.e. exactly like a gambit in chess). There is absolutely no reason for it to be a "contention", unless the DM in question is a narcissistic SOB who hates it when his players play a smart game.

[Harukage]

Wait, what about proficiencies? Medium Armor? Martial Weapons? Not to mention the curse. Because Hexblade is not just about CHA scaling for atack and damage.
Seems like the pact of blade is just a multi-class fodder. It will not work without a dip of paladin realy.