Is druidic warrior going to be a thing?

[Satyr]

I wanted to try the interesting Wis-focused Melee ranger people have mentioned, on a Ranger/Cleric build, but with only 12 levels, I really dont want to have to drop one of them on druid for it.

[Bisexual Offender]

I mean, you can do fighter/druid, Just play what you like and don`t bother with meta.

[Foolswalkin]

You don’t need Shillelagh, you can run Dex/Wis or Str/Wis no problem.

[WeenerTuck813]

I don’t understand the question?

Ranger is a wisdom based half caster that can be played as a melee warrior on its own without cleric or Druid levels. What are you asking exactly?

[Yojo0o]

Unlikely, as it didn't come out until the supplemental book Tasha's Cauldron of Everything. It's great, though. I'm running a Druidic Warrior Ranger right now in a mini-campaign, and he slaps.

Ranger/Cleric seems like it's gonna be really awkward to pull off in BG3.

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by WeenerTuck813:

I don’t understand the question?

Ranger is a wisdom based half caster that can be played as a melee warrior on its own without cleric or Druid levels. What are you asking exactly?

Druidic Warrior is a fighting style option that was added in later supplements, and allows rangers to learn cantrips. It's mildly popular to build a SAD wisdom-scaling ranger with Shillelagh.

[WeenerTuck813]

Originally posted by Yojo0o:

Originally posted by WeenerTuck813:

I don’t understand the question?

Ranger is a wisdom based half caster that can be played as a melee warrior on its own without cleric or Druid levels. What are you asking exactly?

Druidic Warrior is a fighting style option that was added in later supplements, and allows rangers to learn cantrips. It's mildly popular to build a SAD wisdom-scaling ranger with Shillelagh.

Ah, I see.

I do hope they add further expansions, my favorite build is a wisdom based melee build Arcana Cleric with Magic Initiate Druid.

It’s super cool using booming blade and spirit guardians and thorn whipping people into your death cloud

[Foolswalkin]

Originally posted by Yojo0o:

Unlikely, as it didn't come out until the supplemental book Tasha's Cauldron of Everything. It's great, though. I'm running a Druidic Warrior Ranger right now in a mini-campaign, and he slaps.

Ranger/Cleric seems like it's gonna be really awkward to pull off in BG3.

Why awkward? I mean, if you don't want to make Super Crunchberries you could always go Nature Cleric and grab an extra skill and Shillelagh, or just play DAD with slightly less Wisdom than your melee stat.

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by Foolswalkin:

Originally posted by Yojo0o:

Unlikely, as it didn't come out until the supplemental book Tasha's Cauldron of Everything. It's great, though. I'm running a Druidic Warrior Ranger right now in a mini-campaign, and he slaps.

Ranger/Cleric seems like it's gonna be really awkward to pull off in BG3.

Why awkward? I mean, if you don't want to make Super Crunchberries you could always go Nature Cleric and grab an extra skill and Shillelagh, or just play DAD with slightly less Wisdom than your melee stat.

Your mileage may vary, but I find it extremely clunky to fit enough warrior levels into a caster class to get Extra Attack without wholly crippling the caster progression.

[Foolswalkin]

Originally posted by Yojo0o:

Originally posted by Foolswalkin:

Why awkward? I mean, if you don't want to make Super Crunchberries you could always go Nature Cleric and grab an extra skill and Shillelagh, or just play DAD with slightly less Wisdom than your melee stat.

Your mileage may vary, but I find it extremely clunky to fit enough warrior levels into a caster class to get Extra Attack without wholly crippling the caster progression.

Slowing caster progression doesn't bother me that much absent context, it's true. I don't look at a Gloomstalker 5 /Life Cleric 7 and scream at them "why aren't you a level 12 Tempest Cleric instead?," I think, "man, I wanted a frontliner, and this guy is solid at that with hunter's mark and extra attack, and he's comfortable up close and personal where Spirit Guardians can hit the most enemies, and he's a top tier healer, and he's got one hell of a Ranger subclass."

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by Foolswalkin:

Originally posted by Yojo0o:

Your mileage may vary, but I find it extremely clunky to fit enough warrior levels into a caster class to get Extra Attack without wholly crippling the caster progression.

Slowing caster progression doesn't bother me that much absent context, it's true. I don't look at a Gloomstalker 5 /Life Cleric 7 and scream at them "why aren't you a level 12 Tempest Cleric instead?," I think, "man, I wanted a frontliner, and this guy is solid at that with hunter's mark and extra attack, and he's comfortable up close and personal where Spirit Guardians can hit the most enemies, and he's a top tier healer, and he's got one hell of a Ranger subclass."

Which is fair, but I think I'd just forgo weapon attacks and play such a character concept fully as a cleric, casting spells every turn.

Given that, unlike a DnD campaign, we're gonna be comparing the same content and the same difficulty scaling, it'll certainly be interesting to see what style works best in practice here.

[Satyr]

So lets say I did 5 levels into Ranger. How much would I be giving up by doing 1 level in druid for Shillelagh and 6 levels of Cleric (vs going 7 levels of cleric), if I didnt want to go nature cleric? I wanted to do either Light or Life.

I thought it might be easier to make a build work if I wasnt trying to split my points between STR, CON, and WIS, all while being forced to also put 13 into DEX. So I figured, cut out strength and just go all in on WIS for a more supporty cleric that still does decent damage with quarterstaff?

[Super_]

What do you mean druidic warrior?

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by Super_:

What do you mean druidic warrior?

It's a fighting style introduced in supplemental material that gives cantrips to rangers, which enables shillelagh for them among other things.

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by SatyricL:

So lets say I did 5 levels into Ranger. How much would I be giving up by doing 1 level in druid for Shillelagh and 6 levels of Cleric (vs going 7 levels of cleric), if I didnt want to go nature cleric? I wanted to do either Light or Life.

I thought it might be easier to make a build work if I wasnt trying to split my points between STR, CON, and WIS, all while being forced to also put 13 into DEX. So I figured, cut out strength and just go all in on WIS for a more supporty cleric that still does decent damage with quarterstaff?

Three entire spell levels, and however long you're delayed from higher-level spells throughout your adventure. You'd cap out at level 3 spells, as opposed to level 6 spells at endgame.

If you can make it work, by all means, enjoy yourself. Personally, I find it really hard to justify. If I want a warrior cleric, I'll just take War Domain. Or a Paladin.

[Super_]

Originally posted by Yojo0o:

Originally posted by Super_:

What do you mean druidic warrior?

It's a fighting style introduced in supplemental material that gives cantrips to rangers, which enables shillelagh for them among other things.

Sounds awesome! Would be nice if it's a thing but doubt it is. They can't add everything.