Baldur's Gate 3

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Bastila Shan Jul 9, 2023 @ 11:34pm
Can vengeance paladin be lawful evil?
Without breaking my oath?
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larhtas Jul 9, 2023 @ 11:37pm 
Normally yes. Based on the tabletop yes.
But in this game is not very an alignment system so i guess that's depend of your interpretation of "being lawful evil".
larhtas Jul 9, 2023 @ 11:38pm 
For example i'm struggling to note Laezel as either:
- Lawfull evil
or
- Neutral evil
I don't know what it is but it is close to one of those to me. But for some other player she might completely be chaotic evil i guess.
Bastila Shan Jul 9, 2023 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by larhtas:
Normally yes. Based on the tabletop yes.
But in this game is not very an alignment system so i guess that's depend of your interpretation of "being lawful evil".
Well can i kill the owlbear cub or side with goblins against druid grove? Stuff like that.
Bastila Shan Jul 9, 2023 @ 11:44pm 
Originally posted by larhtas:
For example i'm struggling to note Laezel as either:
- Lawfull evil
or
- Neutral evil
I don't know what it is but it is close to one of those to me. But for some other player she might completely be chaotic evil i guess.
You can tell by what they approve of in your actions. Asterion likes all your chaotic evil choices so he obviously chaotic evil
larhtas Jul 9, 2023 @ 11:53pm 
Originally posted by Bastila Shan:
Originally posted by larhtas:
For example i'm struggling to note Laezel as either:
- Lawfull evil
or
- Neutral evil
I don't know what it is but it is close to one of those to me. But for some other player she might completely be chaotic evil i guess.
You can tell by what they approve of in your actions. Asterion likes all your chaotic evil choices so he obviously chaotic evil
yes he is undeniably (to me) chaotic evil.
Cirrus Jul 9, 2023 @ 11:53pm 
Minthara is vengeance. Maybe we can deduce something out of that.
Bastila Shan Jul 10, 2023 @ 12:05am 
Originally posted by Cirrus:
Minthara is vengeance. Maybe we can deduce something out of that.
So i have to kill her or side with her?
Cirrus Jul 10, 2023 @ 12:11am 
Originally posted by Bastila Shan:
Originally posted by Cirrus:
Minthara is vengeance. Maybe we can deduce something out of that.
So i have to kill her or side with her?
She is companion possibility so you can sise with her. Or kill her. But that story is new to release. Details we do not know.
everybe2 Jul 10, 2023 @ 12:32am 
I would say that mostly it would be Lawful Neutral or Neutral alignment.


''The Oath of Vengeance is a solemn commitment to punish those who have committed a grievous sin. When evil forces slaughter helpless villagers, when an entire people turns against the will of the gods, when a thieves' guild grows too violent and powerful, when a dragon rampages through the countryside – at times like these, paladins arise and swear an Oath of Vengeance to set right that which has gone wrong. To these paladins – sometimes called avengers or dark knights – their own purity is not as important as delivering justice.''
Last edited by everybe2; Jul 10, 2023 @ 12:42am
everybe2 Jul 10, 2023 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by Bastila Shan:
Originally posted by Cirrus:
Minthara is vengeance. Maybe we can deduce something out of that.
So i have to kill her or side with her?

Not sure if you can kill all the Thieflings in Druids Grove without breaking the Oath.
That would not be lawful.
Daryl Jul 10, 2023 @ 12:51am 
I dont see anything evil about being a vengeance paladin

i mean say a village gets wiped out by a brigand
and you swore vengeance for those dead villagers

are u a bad guy for wiping out every single member of that brigand through extreme violence?


Absolutely no, you're bringing justice to an unjust world.
malkavius77 Jul 10, 2023 @ 12:58am 
Originally posted by Daryl:
I dont see anything evil about being a vengeance paladin

i mean say a village gets wiped out by a brigand
and you swore vengeance for those dead villagers

are u a bad guy for wiping out every single member of that brigand through extreme violence?


Absolutely no, you're bringing justice to an unjust world.

No one said there was anything evil about being a vengeance paladin. If anything the scenario you described is the stereotypical lawful good paladin archetype. But it also doesn't help that vengeance paladin is kind of vaguely lawful good paladins mixed with devotion paladins from previous editions. This is why they ditched the alignment system.
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Date Posted: Jul 9, 2023 @ 11:34pm
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