i just buy it, does this RPG have racist content?

[Huntard]

sorry for the somewhat crude title

but the real question is whether there is racism from other npc's in game based on the various races ?


for example if I play a dwarf would I be insulted by some npc about my physical deformity which could be repugnant to other races?

I find that racism increases the credibility of a world, because if there is no racism and everyone is nice, it's not immersive


thank you

[Hex]

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Utterly laughable. DnD hasn't been dark for decades.

I am pretty sure DOS 2 is darker moodwise then BG 3.

I mean shipping people off to camps where they're pretty much left to fend for themselves and experimented upon is pretty darn dark despite the pretty colours.

Hardly when it's all laughed off as funny. DoS2 is one big joke.

[EricHVela]

Postat inițial de nyanko:

Drow are basically the nazis of the underdark. So you'll be fine.

Stereotype.

The Seldarine Drow adopted a tolerant stance towards others and prefer to live on the surface among people who'll let them do so. Eilistraee is not a new addition to D&D. She's been around for a while and has always rejected her mother's views.

[Lord Adorable]

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That what you are looking for is a dark setting fantasy world. BG3 is kinda dark sometimes,

Utterly laughable. DnD hasn't been dark for decades.

This sounds like a GM problem imho.

[Quillithe]

Postat inițial de Hex:

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I am pretty sure DOS 2 is darker moodwise then BG 3.

I mean shipping people off to camps where they're pretty much left to fend for themselves and experimented upon is pretty darn dark despite the pretty colours.

Hardly when it's all laughed off as funny. DoS2 is one big joke.

DOS 2 really doesn't play up a lot of its stuff as a joke.

I think the issue is just more that it plays up some as a joke and the combat mechanics can be more lighthearted, and it has bright colors, and that throws off people for the rest when you get to stuff like the blinded magister...or any of the pet pal conversations for some reason.

[Hex]

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Utterly laughable. DnD hasn't been dark for decades.

This sounds like a GM problem imho.

Again, not really. Ever since the moral panic about DnD the entire setting was made kid-friendly.

[EricHVela]

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Postat inițial de Hex:

Utterly laughable. DnD hasn't been dark for decades.

This sounds like a GM problem imho.

Reminds me of a NZ group I've seen.
Player: "Wow! D&D is dark!"
DM: "It is when you guys play it."
It's in part player and DM who make it funny and dark at various times in that group. Lots of hilarious moments, lots of dark and heavy moments, too.

[Lord Adorable]

Postat inițial de Hex:

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This sounds like a GM problem imho.

Again, not really. Ever since the moral panic about DnD the entire setting was made kid-friendly.

Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

[Huntard]

thank you for all the answer

I mean

see it and experience it

not participate with racial slurs even if dwarf deserve it (In game)

[Lord Adorable]

Postat inițial de Bloody Foggy:

thank you for all the answer

I mean

see it and experience it

not participate with racial slurs even if dwarf deserve it (In game)

You get to hear Tieflings get called "Devil-spawn" a fair bit, which is pretty much a racially degroratory term.

[ragvald88]

When i attempted to enter goblin camp as a drow, goblins allowed me in no questions asked and were incredibly polite.
When i attempted to enter as a halfling, they made me smear ♥♥♥♥ all over my face.
So, yes.

[EricHVela]

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When i attempted to enter goblin camp as a drow, goblins allowed me in no questions asked and were incredibly polite.
When i attempted to enter as a halfling, they made me smear ♥♥♥♥ all over my face.
So, yes.

(Main plot spoiler, but anyone who's played EA enough to encounter even just one companion knows about it.)
That was hilarious. In my no-tadpole run, I had to do that.

By no-tadpole, I mean never using the Illithid powers. It affects that part of the story arcs depending on how often you partake and abstain. Brain eater went hungry on that playthrough.

[Rusted Metal]

Postat inițial de Quillithe:

DOS 2 really doesn't play up a lot of its stuff as a joke.

I think the issue is just more that it plays up some as a joke and the combat mechanics can be more lighthearted, and it has bright colors, and that throws off people for the rest when you get to stuff like the blinded magister...or any of the pet pal conversations for some reason.

I'd argue that that the game seems to be darker because of how lighthearted it is, it's like audio dissonance in horror movies where happy music is played over creepy scenes and it doesn't make the scene better, it makes it somehow worse.

One minute it's bright colours and jokes, next minute it's ripping the souls from people to make them a lifeless shell, a child who was clearly mentally ill who tortured animals or talking to a person who had been being chopped up and served as food.

[CloudKira]

I think Shadowheart is racist towards Githyanki.

Or just hates the Gith girl companion only.

[Lord Adorable]

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I think Shadowheart is racist towards Githyanki.

Or just hates the Gith girl companion only.

Oh no, she absolutely hates Gith. I played a Githyanki and I had a harder time recruiting her because of it.
Weather it's because she's cautious due to her mission or some past event is up in the air, but she does put all Githyanki under the same umbrella, at least until you earn her trust.

[Dust]

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Hardly when it's all laughed off as funny. DoS2 is one big joke.

DOS 2 really doesn't play up a lot of its stuff as a joke.

I think the issue is just more that it plays up some as a joke and the combat mechanics can be more lighthearted, and it has bright colors, and that throws off people for the rest when you get to stuff like the blinded magister...or any of the pet pal conversations for some reason.

I just tried to replay DOS 2 for about 10 hours doing everything I could in Fort Joy and the amount of situations and conversations that have at least one joke in them, whether it's by barks, by the narrator getting snappy and/or doing some observational comedy, by your conversation options, by your companions interjecting or pulling you aside, by bait-and-switch, by slapstick comedy moments via animations and a myriad of other things far outnumber the moments that don't. And there's also the fact that those that don't are often placed right next to the ones that do, so you're going from learning about an orphan that got run over by an ambulance full of dead puppies to fantasy Seinfeld in a few seconds.

DOS 2 wants to straddle the line between lightheartedness and gloom but for me, all it does is come across as being terrified of making the player feeling bummed out for more than half a minute. Games like Pillars, Witcher or Mass Effect worked much better for me on that level.