Just how many subclasses do you think the game will have on release?

[Ephemerant]

My expectation is everything in the PHB. My hope is to have a whole slew of subclasses from outside the PHB. One of the big downsides to running PHB only is that Cleric and Wizard get a ton more options than other classes.

At the very least we need some of the more standout options like Bladesinger, Hexblade, Psi Warrior seems pretty apt, Gloomstalker, etc. Going PHB only is going to make other classes feel really threadbare in options comparatively.

[desrtfox071]

All we really know is what Larian have stated:

“The full release of BG3 will include all of the classes and races, and most of the spells and skills contained in the D&D Player’s Handbook, as well as Act 2 & Act 3 of the story of Baldur’s Gate 3.”

Interestingly, the subclasses themselves aren't mentioned. hopefully though we'll get most of them as well.

[Яeplicant]

Your expectations are correct. However, if any sublcasses outside of the PHB are to be added down the road, no one knows but may be a possibility as the term artificer - in what context I don't recall, if there was any - was datamined a couple of patches ago.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

I only expect what's been officially confirmed. They said all classes from the PHB will be in the release version, and while that's no explicit confirmation of subclasses, I take it that all subclasses are included in that. Outside of that I have no expectations. I would love to at least see xanathars guide choices, but I'm certain those will be added by mods anyways, and I'm fine if I have to add these via mods.

[Ephemerant]

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

All we really know is what Larian have stated:

“The full release of BG3 will include all of the classes and races, and most of the spells and skills contained in the D&D Player’s Handbook, as well as Act 2 & Act 3 of the story of Baldur’s Gate 3.”

Interestingly, the subclasses themselves aren't mentioned. hopefully though we'll get most of them as well.

Exactly, especially since that certain Paladin Oath is from the DMG. Hopefully they try to at least balance the number of options out so each class is even.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

I hope they add a couple extra non-PHB subs, partucularly the more popular ones like Bladesinger and Hexblade.

[sevensided]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

I hope they add a couple extra non-PHB subs, partucularly the more popular ones like Bladesinger and Hexblade.

And the blade cantrips to go along with those subclasses.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by sevensided:

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

I hope they add a couple extra non-PHB subs, partucularly the more popular ones like Bladesinger and Hexblade.

And the blade cantrips to go along with those subclasses.

Oh for sure - I wish Warlocks had more Invocations that were applicable to cantrips other than just Eldritch Blast. In fact, why couldn't Agonizing Blast apply to any single cantrip, chosen when you pick up the Invocation? That alone would give Warlocks more versatility as they could choose different attack cantrips without sacrificing dpr.

[Ephemerant]

I honestly wonder how they expect a melee focused Warlock to be effective without the Hexblade. Pact of the Blade Warlocks really struggled before Hexblade was released.