Please fix Oath Broken

[Fawlcon]

When rescuing Halsin, I get attacked by the goblins. The goblins are red and hostile and attack the party...fair enough. However, when my Paladin gives a final blow to a goblin, he breaks his Oath...this makes no sense to me.

[sevensided]

Yeah Oaths are wonky in BG3, but I do have a question- was it one of the child gobbos you killed?

[Ghost]

Were they on 'your side' before talking to Halsin? Did you tell them to free him or just let him out?

Easy enough to regain your oath though, just talk to the knight that shows up in your camp.

[Fawlcon]

Sevensided: It was "nearly" any goblin I dealt the final blow to on the way out. I am a saves-scummer and just let my other characters do the death blows.

Ghost. I've done both and more...have 500+ hours in the game. <3 The Oath Breaker thing is just annoying.

[Revener]

Well if you talked your way into the goblin camp, you will break your voath alot when killing them. Since you break your word.

[Rusted Metal]

An outline/warning is very much needed, Because morality is highly subjective might i add, so slipping into what the devs deem dishonorable needs outlining. I mean killing an innocent child sure i think we can all agree with that, sneaking up on a goblin that has just murdered travelers and obliterating their skull with a warhammer, i mean i thought that was fine... apparently to the developer that was very much not fine.

[Fawlcon]

Originally posted by Revener:

Well if you talked your way into the goblin camp, you will break your oath alot when killing them. Since you break your word.

Maybe a lawful good Paladin, I'd might agree. But a chaotic or natural good Paladin would not have a problem letting the goblins thinking he was an Absolute until he could find and rescue Halsin. IMO If you played BG1/2 a Lawful Good Paladin could be tricky also lol

[Hobocop]

I've noticed that you haven't specified which Oath.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Fawlcon:

Originally posted by Revener:

Well if you talked your way into the goblin camp, you will break your oath alot when killing them. Since you break your word.

Maybe a lawful good Paladin, I'd might agree. But a chaotic or natural good Paladin would not have a problem letting the goblins thinking he was an Absolute until he could find and rescue Halsin. IMO If you played BG1/2 a Lawful Good Paladin could be tricky also lol

Paladins were required to be lawful good.
Also deception is a big no-no for most, including Devotion and Ancients

[Fawlcon]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by Fawlcon:

Paladins were required to be lawful good.
Also deception is a big no-no for most, including Devotion and Ancients

Key word "were". I still believe a Chaotic or Neutral good Paladin's are far more flexible for the greater good while the Lawful Good is more challenging to play and a pain in a parties rear end. Not to mention having a mind flayer tadpole in your head could make you slightly more flexible lol

[Mr Pibbleton]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by Fawlcon:

Maybe a lawful good Paladin, I'd might agree. But a chaotic or natural good Paladin would not have a problem letting the goblins thinking he was an Absolute until he could find and rescue Halsin. IMO If you played BG1/2 a Lawful Good Paladin could be tricky also lol

Paladins were required to be lawful good.
Also deception is a big no-no for most, including Devotion and Ancients

I didn't see anything about that in Oath of the Ancients, I played a half-elf with the friends cantrip, lied my ass off the entire game it was great, didn't mess around with necromancy or commit animal cruelty, had a great time 10/10 would recommend shoving goblin children off of cliffs.

[Unclechopchop]

Yeah unless its a bug their version of morality a bit ridiculous. You basically have to walk up to an enemy, boldly proclaim that you challenge them to a fair duel, and even after all that it will probably still break your oath as that is somehow not good enough despite the fact you may have just seen them murder hobo a bunch of innocent children.

[Revener]

Originally posted by Fawlcon:

Originally posted by Revener:

Well if you talked your way into the goblin camp, you will break your oath alot when killing them. Since you break your word.

Maybe a lawful good Paladin, I'd might agree. But a chaotic or natural good Paladin would not have a problem letting the goblins thinking he was an Absolute until he could find and rescue Halsin. IMO If you played BG1/2 a Lawful Good Paladin could be tricky also lol

The Oath is the only thing that matters, not the alignment (that is not even used).

[vuthanhchung2]

Originally posted by Revener:

Originally posted by Fawlcon:

Maybe a lawful good Paladin, I'd might agree. But a chaotic or natural good Paladin would not have a problem letting the goblins thinking he was an Absolute until he could find and rescue Halsin. IMO If you played BG1/2 a Lawful Good Paladin could be tricky also lol

The Oath is the only thing that matters, not the alignment (that is not even used).

The Oath is a guidelines not a rules book, and Larian have been inconsistently implying it. Paladin can "persuade" the Goblin that they are mercenary then go in and kill the Leaders, this is definition of a Lie that. Paladin can also lock picking and and grave robbing. So If Larian want to treat it as a rules book, they had to consistently treat it as a rules book. They can't arbitrary apply idiotic rule in combat mechanic, but ignore it in world mechanic.

[Revener]

Originally posted by vuthanhchung2:

Originally posted by Revener:

The Oath is the only thing that matters, not the alignment (that is not even used).

The Oath is a guidelines not a rules book, and Larian have been inconsistently implying it. Paladin can "persuade" the Goblin that they are mercenary then go in and kill the Leaders, this is definition of a Lie that. Paladin can also lock picking and and grave robbing. So If Larian want to treat it as a rules book, they had to consistently treat it as a rules book. They can't arbitrary apply idiotic rule in combat mechanic, but ignore it in world mechanic.

I got a broken oath when killing the leaders unless I got them to attack me first.

[dduke414]

Yup playing oath of the ancient and broke my oath the same way. Would like a notification at least. I was blind sided by it.