What are your biggest complaints?

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

Tell everyone here what your biggest complaints are about Larion and BG3.

Here are some of my biggest complaints:

Laroin studios are not good at prioritizing what features are more important. Instead of adding a no save scum mode like most modern crpg games try to do, they added lots of features for twitch streamers.

They should make rules more like DnD, for simplicity they should just copy Solasta. Solasta combat mechanics together with BG3 rpg would be a great combo.

Too few companions. BG 1 and 2 had so many companions you could choose between and you met them during your travels.

I'll post some more later as they come to mind

[Serenity_witch]

I ended up uninstalling the game because it was too early access. It had a lot of Divinity aspects that don't mesh well with the D&D system, even 5E. The companions are pretty 'meh' compared to others the Baldur's Gate series, with the most interesting one arguably being a returning character.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that the devs will kinda end up buggering the ending a bit, as they did with Original Sin 1 & 2. (I found OS 1 & 2's big reveals & endings anti-climactic compared to the buildup). But I'll admit that I'm bitter about what they did with Maxos & Lucian, so that's tainted my viewpoint.

[Яeplicant]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Kairos:

magickblog is right. It would be better ideally if games were made EA around 80% completion, then they can start looking for feedback

Better yet, why not start looking for feedback at 100% completion? That's basically what the good ol development specialist Magick-B has been ranting about for about a year plus. He wanted everything from the get-go! After having been denied a refund on GOG and started ranting about it on Steam.

Originally posted by magickblog:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

So you're saying no EA?

I'm pretty sure the whole game is as much content as possible.

The problem was that when they launched ea, the game as a whole was just over 50% complete. (I heard it from someone on this forum)

That is, such an approach leads to "Early access being too early - If the gap between EA and release is too great time-wise, then its easy for me to get burnt out and ruin the full experience by the time I get there. This is a problem not unique to Larian though."

The more you talk, the more I question your wisdom. Perhaps it's lost in translation due to whatever translator you're using still.

Furthermore, that kinda goes against what a EA is. Not to mention that pretty much every game that launches into EA is not even close to being completed over 50%. You know, being in active development and all that.

Lastly, if you're going to name random sources such as "I heard it from someone", you better follow up with a quote or something to back it up. If you want to be taken seriously, you know but that ship left the port a very long time ago.

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by Яeplicant:

Question is, will it continue the current storyline or will it be yet another prequel? I've been waiting for years for them to continue after Ego Draconis.

Is Original Sin even set in the same universe really? DOS1 seemed pretty off on its own, and DOS2 seemed to retcon a lot of existing stuff.

Last time I checked, which was 2020 when I started the franchise run, it was stated to be set prior to Divine Divinity but ever since D:OS2 the timeline itself is rather... plot-hole-y with Lucian making appearences in D:OS2 despite being missing until you see him being locked up in Ergo Draconis/Flames of Vengeance. Chronologically, Dragon Commander is the very first entry, which I've never played.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by magickblog:

then its easy for me to get burnt out and ruin the full experience by the time I get there. This is a problem not unique to Larian though."

To be honest, sounds more like a you problem to me...You know you are allowed to play other games in between, right?
If you don't wanna get burned out, stop playing this game and play something else in the meantime, or don't buy EA. Problem solved.
You putting the responsibility for your own behavior upon Larian and in turn everybody else. In short I am not allowed to enjoy EAs that are any longer then you deem appropriate, because you can't show some self control.
That's what your suggestion is. And that's why it's absolutely bs.

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by magickblog:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

So you're saying no EA?

I'm pretty sure the whole game is as much content as possible.

The problem was that when they launched ea, the game as a whole was just over 50% complete. (I heard it from someone on this forum)

That is, such an approach leads to "Early access being too early - If the gap between EA and release is too great time-wise, then its easy for me to get burnt out and ruin the full experience by the time I get there. This is a problem not unique to Larian though."

Play other games then. Larian isn't holding you at gunpoint and forcing you to play the EA.

OH wait, you're not playing the EA anyway because you don't even own the game.

[haasi]

Ignore the trolls Magick-B! They're just desperate for any form of human interaction, they don't actually want any evidence, just some form of acknowledgement for their sad excuse for living.

Try not to spend too much energy trying to be reasonable with delusional people. :)

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by haasi:

Ignore the trolls Magick-B! They're just desperate for any form of human interaction, they don't actually want any evidence, just some form of acknowledgement for their sad excuse for living.

Try not to spend too much energy trying to be reasonable with delusional people. :)

Still waiting for that proof that you don't have. >:p

[Space Dog]

Too much focus on fluff and memes and too little focus on good tactical gameplay that isn't just about shoving enemies or abusing OP surprise attacks.

15 million permutations to mess with Alfira, steal/break her lute, talk to her squirrels and whatever, but a core mechanic like stealth is still completely broken. Camera and movement are clunky and buggy.

[Farsha]

Honestly my biggest gripe now is just DnD 5E part of the game.
I just don't like the concentration mechanic.
Bless and Haste are too good and there is no point ever use concentration for anything else.
If just High lvl characters could concentrate on 2 spells, but nope...

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Farsha:

Honestly my biggest gripe now is just DnD 5E part of the game.
I just don't like concentration mechanic.
Bless and Haste are too good and there is no point ever using concentration for something else.
If just High lvl characters could concentrate on 2 spells, but nope...

Concentration is a pretty standard D&D mechanic though.
Oh well, at least we don't need material components for spells. So far at least.

[Farsha]

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Concentration is a pretty standard D&D mechanic though.
Oh well, at least we don't need material components for spells. So far at least.

Only in 5 Edition, it's part of the simplification of the game for pen & paper purposes.
3.5E math can get pretty crazy pretty fast ( not an issue in a video game)
Still problem is spell balance both bless and haste are only things you will ever want, if you want to play a little optimaly. So you will never use more than 50% of the spells in the game.

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Farsha:

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Concentration is a pretty standard D&D mechanic though.
Oh well, at least we don't need material components for spells. So far at least.

Only in 5 Edition, it's part of the simplification of the game for pen & paper purposes.
3.5E math can get pretty crazy pretty fast ( not an issue in a video game)
Still problem is spell balance both bless and haste are only things you will ever want, if you want to play a little optimaly. So you will never use more than 50% of the spells in the game.

So just like proper D&D. I cast fireball. Only fireball. Nothing but fireball. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MgAhJvmc3s

[Hobocop]

I can think of plenty of situations I'd want Spirit Guardians over Bless. Haste arguably isn't even that good unless you're twinning it.

Never mind that Bless and Haste aren't even on everyone's spell list. Which is fine, because Spike Growth and Hypnotic Pattern slap just as much if not harder.

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Hobocop:

I can think of plenty of situations I'd want Spirit Guardians over Bless.

Never mind that Bless and Haste aren't even on everyone's spell list. Which is fine, because Spike Growth and Hypnotic Pattern slap just as much if not harder.

Personally I prefer Call Lightning as a concentration spell.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Originally posted by Hobocop:

I can think of plenty of situations I'd want Spirit Guardians over Bless.

Never mind that Bless and Haste aren't even on everyone's spell list. Which is fine, because Spike Growth and Hypnotic Pattern slap just as much if not harder.

Personally I prefer Call Lightning as a concentration spell.

Especially with Wet condition and Haste

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Personally I prefer Call Lightning as a concentration spell.

Especially with Wet condition and Haste

Wait wait. Haste is a concentration spell too, isn't it? You can't have two concentration spells active.
Did I mess up?