Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Veles Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:25am
Is it okay that Mage armor doesn't work with Draconic Resilience (Sorcerer dragon bloodline)?
Well I don't see in description any obstacles for the combo. Is it a bug?
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I assume you mean the AC part?
Both effects set your AC to 13+dexmod
They do the exact same thing overwriting each other.
I think Mage Armor is worded wrong in BG3, though, as technically (at least according to the TT rules) it doesn't increase your ac, but sets it to a fixed value.
Last edited by Heu, Iterum Id Feci; Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:30am
Edstyles Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:35am 
they dont mix in 5e. Same with druids there is no natural armor just a set amount of armor . So stacking isnt a thing.
Last edited by Edstyles; Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:37am
KOHb Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:36am 
Yup it's okay.
It's exactly the same thing — they exclude each other.
You may have only one type of base armor active.

The advantage is that it cannot be dispelled and you don't waste spell slot/wand/scroll/potion for it.
Last edited by KOHb; Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:40am
Edstyles Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:38am 
with that said draconic res is still pretty nice as u dont have to use mage armor for yourself. Not a problem in late game but early game is nice.
Last edited by Edstyles; Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:39am
Veles Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:49am 
Well I'm disappointed. Now a wild magic sorcerer looks much preferable. As for me It has much funnier dialog choices and stronger features. And the only reason to try the dragon sorcerer for me was his tank potential. But well, I can spend 1st lvl spell magic armor - it will not be big deal for me, so Draconic resilience is almost useless)
Last edited by Veles; Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:52am
Edstyles Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:55am 
I mean hasnt wild magic sorc always been better?
KOHb Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by Veles:
Well I'm disappointed. Now a wild magic sorcerer looks much preferable. As for me It has much funnier dialog choices and stronger features. And the only reason to try the dragon sorcerer for me was his tank potential. But well, I can spend 1st spell magic armor - it will not be big deal for me, so Draconic resilience is almost useless)

Mostly draconic bloodline is taken for this:

Elemental Affinity
Starting at 6th Level, when you Cast a Spell that deals damage of the type associated with your Draconic ancestry, you can add your Charisma modifier to one damage roll of that spell. At the same time, you can spend 1 sorcery point to gain Resistance to that damage type for 1 hour.

Which is lvl6, not available in EA.
Last edited by KOHb; Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:56am
KOHb Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by Edstyles:
I mean hasnt wild magic sorc always been better?
WM sorc is a gambling Walking casino.
You may screw your party with one spell if things will go wrong.
Last edited by KOHb; Dec 26, 2022 @ 5:59am
Edstyles Dec 26, 2022 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by Criminal Horse:
Originally posted by Edstyles:
I mean hasnt wild magic sorc always been better?
WM sorc is a gambling Walking casino.
You may screw your party with one spell if things will go wrong.

Yeah tho the favours are to you at least it should be. I like draconic myself as i too dont like to gamble even if my favours are good.

I wonder if elemental affinity might be super bad as well. As probably only 1 roll gets benefit in a fireball. Tho i cant say for sure , but thats what the tooltip says.
Last edited by Edstyles; Dec 26, 2022 @ 6:03am
KOHb Dec 26, 2022 @ 6:07am 
Originally posted by Edstyles:
Yeah tho the favours are to you at least it should be. I like draconic myself as i too dont like to gamble even if my favours are good.

I wonder if elemental affinity might be super bad as well. As probably only 1 roll gets benefit in a fireball. Tho i cant say for sure , but thats what the tooltip says.

In cRPG, when you always have the ability to reaload your TPK it's not that bad :)
KOHb Dec 26, 2022 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by Edstyles:
Yeah tho the favours are to you at least it should be. I like draconic myself as i too dont like to gamble even if my favours are good.

I wonder if elemental affinity might be super bad as well. As probably only 1 roll gets benefit in a fireball. Tho i cant say for sure , but thats what the tooltip says.

JUst to clarify: elemental affinity is stable bonus to your affinity element spells (usually fire).

Example: at lvl 6 your sorc most likely will have 16-18 charisma making your (affinity) spells deal +3-4 more damage.
• So your lvl3 fireball has 8d6 damage, 28 on average, then you add your cha bonus (let it be 4). That's 14% more damage on average.
• Or firebolt, dealing 2d10, average 11 add 4 bonus and you get ~36% damage boost at average for your cantrip.

While it may be not looking cool at description, it's actually a good boost.
Last edited by KOHb; Dec 26, 2022 @ 6:28am
Harukage Dec 26, 2022 @ 6:27am 
Well if we will get lvl14, dragon wings is also a great addition. Flight that only costs a bonus action and do not require spell slos or concentration. Very nice.
KOHb Dec 26, 2022 @ 6:30am 
Originally posted by Harukage:
Well if we will get lvl14, dragon wings is also a great addition. Flight that only costs a bonus action and do not require spell slos or concentration. Very nice.

I skipped it, because I don't think we will :D
I would like to be wrong.
dolby Dec 26, 2022 @ 6:38am 
it helps you save spell slots.

You get one free spell slots per long rest for builds that don't use armor. if one was to rebalance the whole system this could be tweaked but as is they wanted to save on tasks that people have to deal with in tabe top so stacking is simplified.
Originally posted by dolby:
it helps you save spell slots.

You get one free spell slots per long rest for builds that don't use armor. if one was to rebalance the whole system this could be tweaked but as is they wanted to save on tasks that people have to deal with in tabe top so stacking is simplified.
The saved Spellslot is nice, however I like even more that I don't have to learn mage armor. Especially on early levels that's nice, but also overall, given that sorcs have a rather limited amount of spells.
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