Best 2H sword/weapon

[LazerFruit [The9]]

what is the best 2H sword atm? currently running everburning blade and just got sussur greatswrod, was wondering if it was worth swapping

[KOHb]

Originally posted by Gaius:

I like to use faithbreaker with a shield (so not as a 2hander). If you're gonna go blunt, Hamarhraft is probably the best choice like for killing the last boss , just gotta ALWAYS remember to control the character with it to avoid friendly fire with the jump AoE procs.

Someone ever found Maul+1 in EA?
Because it's pretty cool too because of special ability. Maybe even the best.
https://i.imgur.com/pZDZ2am.png

As for 'Hamarhraft' — Faithbreaker would have almost the same average damage, but +1 attack.

[Gaius]

Originally posted by Criminal Horse:

Originally posted by Gaius:

I like to use faithbreaker with a shield (so not as a 2hander). If you're gonna go blunt, Hamarhraft is probably the best choice like for killing the last boss , just gotta ALWAYS remember to control the character with it to avoid friendly fire with the jump AoE procs.

Someone ever found Maul+1 in EA?
Because it's pretty cool too because of special ability. Maybe even the best.
https://i.imgur.com/pZDZ2am.png

As for 'Hamarhraft' — Faithbreaker would have almost the same average damage, but +1 attack.

But the skin is so beautiful and shinny... and I really love the AoE stomp XD

Also, faithbreaker is usually equiped by my beloved light cleric dwarf. It's just so nice to have a pushback with him without the need to grab adept druid for thunderwave...

[WeenerTuck813]

Originally posted by Criminal Horse:

Base damage:
1) Everburning blade----------------3-16, avg. 9.5
2) Sussur greatsword / SoJ ---------3-13, avg. 8 +1 attack
3) FaithBreaker----------------------2-11, avg. 6.5 +1 attack
But FB also has 'absolute power' once per rest for d10+1+STRx2+d6 (force)
4) Greataxe +1----------------------2-13, avg. 7.5 +1 attack

If you are able to dip your weapon into fire, obviosly EB would be the worst because dipping it in fire has no effect.
1) 9.5
2) 10.5 +1 attack
3) 9 +1 attack
4) 10 +1 attack

So, in normal conditions Everburning blade. But if you're planning ti dip into the fire for bonus damage, then enything else.
As for move set Faithbreaker is one of the greatest imo.
As for damage once per rest I like Greataxe for preparation.
Sussur/SoJ perks you know )

If you are half-orc you maybe like to prefer 1-12 weapons over 2d6 because you can add bonus 1-12 to your crits instead of 1-6.

This is accurate but you’re literally ONLY looking at damage per round assuming all hit.

SoJ vs Everburn for example

Everburn is 9.5 avg dam
SoJ is 8

But SoJ has +1 attack, so it hits more often, affecting average dpr.

So if an enemy has, let’s say, 17 AC
And you have 18 Str (+4 mod) and +2 prof bonus.

You’re talking about needing to roll an 11+ (50% hit) with Everburn

Vs

Needing to roll a 10+ (55% hit) due to the +1

So if you do 9.5 dpr at a 50% hit you’re looking at 4.75 dpr

Vs

8 dpr at 55% hit = 4.4 dpr

So you’re sacrificing a free cast bonus action +2 AC on the sword for an average of 0.35 dpr.

Now this is all hypothetical the averages will change with prof mod, AC of enemy, Str mod, etc etc

[Amix]

Sussur Greatsword is clearly unmatched in this patch. It makes your character mage bane by inflicting silence for one turn. As per the rules, silenced characters can not cast spells with verbal component that includes almost all ranger spells , Paladin smites, misty step, command spells, faerie fire etc.Very useful against hag as she can not cast Vicious mockery ( A very horrible spell) lol & teleport Mayrina in her house. Teleport is spell with verbal component.
It does not even require saving throw. That might change in future. Everburn blade is obsolete as soon as you find any +1 GS. Damon in grove sells it.
Sword of justice is +1 and shield of faith needs concentration. Currently you can use shield of faith on Sword of Justice & unequip it.

[Edstyles]

EH last time i tried i had to keep sword of justice equipped to keep the buff and that was just a few days ago.

[Amix]

I see. Still lot of things need to be fixed because Wyll can equip it and you almost never use rapier. +2 AC might work in this patch because game is much easier than before.During early version I was using blur & mirror image spells on Gale but Goblins still rolled 20 in a row.

[Edstyles]

Originally posted by Amix:

I see. Still lot of things need to be fixed because Wyll can equip it and you almost never use rapier. +2 AC might work in this patch because game is much easier than before.During early version I was using blur & mirror image spells on Gale but Goblins still rolled 20 in a row.

An easy fix would be to not be able to use magic from an item that you are not proficient with I suppose.

[Cirrus]

Originally posted by Amix:

I see. Still lot of things need to be fixed because Wyll can equip it and you almost never use rapier. +2 AC might work in this patch because game is much easier than before.During early version I was using blur & mirror image spells on Gale but Goblins still rolled 20 in a row.

In 5E all can equip any weapon.

[Amix]

Good discussion. A lot of things need to be addressed because release date is very close.
Lae'zel can equip it to cast shield of faith & then you can ask her to stay at camp.
Should it work? Yes, technically. Well, people might recruit her for this buff only. :)

[Edstyles]

Originally posted by Amix:

Good discussion. A lot of things need to be addressed because release date is very close.
Lae'zel can equip it to cast shield of faith & then you can ask her to stay at camp.
Should it work? Yes, technically. Well, people might recruit her for this buff only. :)

Yeah that should be adressed there is plenty of loop holes and exploits that can be done and yeah 6 months pass by fast and there is plenty to fix.

[KOHb]

Originally posted by Amix:

I see. Still lot of things need to be fixed because Wyll can equip it and you almost never use rapier. +2 AC might work in this patch because game is much easier than before.During early version I was using blur & mirror image spells on Gale but Goblins still rolled 20 in a row.

Wyll has a lot better options how to use concentration.
And also lightning staff works fine with him (or any other utility staff), so he has no free slots for a 2H weapons.

But you may use Astarion as Shield of Faith bot, using ranged weapons in combat. Dual crossbows are quite fine for him too.

[KOHb]

Originally posted by WeenerTuck813:

This is accurate but you’re literally ONLY looking at damage per round assuming all hit.

SoJ vs Everburn for example

Everburn is 9.5 avg dam
SoJ is 8

But SoJ has +1 attack, so it hits more often, affecting average dpr.

So if an enemy has, let’s say, 17 AC
And you have 18 Str (+4 mod) and +2 prof bonus.

You’re talking about needing to roll an 11+ (50% hit) with Everburn

Vs

Needing to roll a 10+ (55% hit) due to the +1

So if you do 9.5 dpr at a 50% hit you’re looking at 4.75 dpr

Vs

8 dpr at 55% hit = 4.4 dpr

So you’re sacrificing a free cast bonus action +2 AC on the sword for an average of 0.35 dpr.

Now this is all hypothetical the averages will change with prof mod, AC of enemy, Str mod, etc etc

I just brought primitive basic damage per hit chart )
And tbh those weapons are almost the same in terms of basic damage because difference in +/- 1.5 damage is quite irrelevant when it comes to really good utility options or vulnerabilities or +attack if you're lacking it (espetially if you're using GWM).

[Amix]

Originally posted by Criminal Horse:

Originally posted by Amix:

I see. Still lot of things need to be fixed because Wyll can equip it and you almost never use rapier. +2 AC might work in this patch because game is much easier than before.During early version I was using blur & mirror image spells on Gale but Goblins still rolled 20 in a row.

Wyll has a lot better options how to use concentration.
And also lightning staff works fine with him (or any other utility staff), so he has no free slots for a 2H weapons.

But you may use Astarion as Shield of Faith bot, using ranged weapons in combat. Dual crossbows are quite fine for him too.

Just an example, not necessary to use Wyll or Gale for the shield of faith. You can go into battle without buffs & win because game is much easier in patch 9. The bright side is we might not see, 'Gith quest is too difficult' topic for hundredth time. Sword of Justice fits perfectly in the hands of Battlemaster for a reason.
Now to answer original post. +1 enchantment item is always better. There is more, the description of magic weapon spell currently in game allows us to cast that spell on +1 GS already which becomes +2. Somethings are vulnerable to bludgeoning like one Minotaur & Grym. You can buy Maul +1 from Damon in Grove or from merchants in Goblin camp.