Why is the bulette underground and why not choose umberhulk!?

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Umberhulks live underground, bulettes (AKA landsharks) live on the overworld, with a territory radius of about 30 miles and attack adventurers on overworld using their ability to tunnel. They dont actually live underground.
Umberhulks however are the same CR and live underground proper.

The Umberhulk even has its environment listed as Underdark, Bulette is listed as grassland because it uses its tunnelling ability to move below the surface. It doesnt live in the underdark...

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Ecology
Environment
The bulette prefers temperate lands. A single bulette may claim a territory as wide as thirty miles, moving on only when the area has been exhausted of all animal and humanoid life.

Bulettes rarely take a lair, and will spend their time roaming the land for food or resting beneath the ground.[3]

Life cycle
Bulettes are solitary creatures and are almost always encountered alone. They meet others of their kind only to mate, and do not stay together long. The female usually slaughters and consumes the male after mating.[1]

The bulette is warm-blooded and is thought to bear live young like a mammal, although it is also conjectured that they lay eggs. Nests of their young have never been seen, and it as presumed that they are buried deep in the earth for safety.[6]

Diet
A bulette is carnivorous, and will eat anything and everything that moves, including weaker bulettes. It is always hungry.[4]

A bulette's favorite foods are halfling and horse.[2] They dislike the taste of dwarf and especially elf.[4] A rumor says that a bulette will actively refuse to eat an elf,[3] but this is thought to be an old wives' tale.[7] They have even been known to digest wood and metal, and will gleefully consume a humanoid victim along with all of their clothing, equipment, and even sacks of coins.[3]

The gohlbrorn is smaller, more intelligent cousin of the bulette native to the Underdark.

^^^ this guy is native to the underdark, i even forgot about this one myself.
But its different CR so umberhulk is better.

They have multiple creatures that reside in the underdark, similar CRs. This creature. Does not.

Yes, yes. Read Harukage's response. Apparently there's an actual in-game explanation for it's presence. Rule lawyer all you want. Apparently someone else brought it there. Which still makes it looking for food in the Underdark as valid anyway.

doesnt make sense because

All creatures shun the landshark. It has no friends.

It is exceptionally difficult to tame or control the bulette. Psionically powerful creatures like mind flayers have been able to control them with mental domination, while humanoids including hobgoblins and yuan-ti have been able to control them by years of torture and the cost of many trainers' lives.[7]

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Yes, yes. Read Harukage's response. Apparently there's an actual in-game explanation for it's presence. Rule lawyer all you want. Apparently someone else brought it there. Which still makes it looking for food in the Underdark as valid anyway.

doesnt make sense because

All creatures shun the landshark. It has no friends.

It is exceptionally difficult to tame or control the bulette. Psionically powerful creatures like mind flayers have been able to control them with mental domination, while humanoids including hobgoblins and yuan-ti have been able to control them by years of torture and the cost of many trainers' lives.[7]

dude, WoTC themselves could tell you why and you would complain. Here's the reality:

-It was brought by a cleric that made that tower. In-game explanation.

That's it. and even if this is a mistake, you just proved how it could have been and it's not a big deal. There are underdark versions of it. As far as we know, Some one at Larian mixed up the two during development and haven't fixed it or aren't aware.

This is literally an "Actually...." guy take. You are freaking out about this game in every thread over the smallest things. You'll likely get your Umberhulk at some point since this likely won't be the only time we're in the Underdark. But seriously, this isn't a big deal.

[Harukage]

Nah. It was a priestes of Mystra, who is very likely also a wizard. Powerfull and knowledgeable enough to build arcane tower with all those constructs and defense mechanisms. Also experimenting on Underdark flora.
And of a short stature, given by the final clues. Likely a gnome, so her brain also works in a different way compared to other races.
Can she get herself a pet Bulette? Sure, why not.

[Runic Tunic]

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Pretty sure seandeven gave a pretty good explanation as to why. Plus, just because a Bulette appears in the Underdark doesn't mean they "live" there like the OP seems to assume. Seeing one there doesn't mean it lives there.

Bulettes burrow and tunnel underground, which is where the UnderDark is located. I don't feel like it's such an absurd stretch to imagine how seeing one may be possible if the two locations overlap.

A Bullette burrows tunnels like mole to traverse. You wont find a single mole a 50 yards deep in the earth.

But i can help explain it.... bullette has been infected by a tadpole and now lost its orientation and burrowed far deeper! Isnt it awesome to have larians story skills?

Clearly someone has a chip off their shoulder and is using it to hate everything lol

Also, it was already shown there's an in-game explanation; A magical one at that. And there's an underdark version anyway, which means even if this is a mistake on Larian's part, it's a very simple name and stat adjustment situation.

Either way, this level of hostility is laughably extreme for such a weird little thing. Take a breather man. It's a minor thing in a very vast EA.

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A Bullette burrows tunnels like mole to traverse. You wont find a single mole a 50 yards deep in the earth.

But i can help explain it.... bullette has been infected by a tadpole and now lost its orientation and burrowed far deeper! Isnt it awesome to have larians story skills?

Clearly someone has a chip off their shoulder and is using it to hate everything lol

Also, it was already shown there's an in-game explanation. and there's an underdark version anyway, which means even if this is a mistake on Larian's part, it's a very simple name and stat adjustment situation.

Either way, this level of hostility is laughably extreme for such a weird little thing. Take a breather man. It's a minor thing in a very vast EA.

yep Stat adjustment..... larian is an expert here just check the goblins. LOL

Its not hostility..... realy.... i played dos 1 and 2 and liked them for what they are. So no its realy NOT hostility.
Its just larian is entirely incompetent and pathetic when it comes to realize a different franchise. They are super creative and realy good when they can do their own thing! But realizing a premade world with premade rules is something out of their experience and skill.

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Clearly someone has a chip off their shoulder and is using it to hate everything lol

Also, it was already shown there's an in-game explanation. and there's an underdark version anyway, which means even if this is a mistake on Larian's part, it's a very simple name and stat adjustment situation.

Either way, this level of hostility is laughably extreme for such a weird little thing. Take a breather man. It's a minor thing in a very vast EA.

yep Stat adjustment..... larian is an expert here just check the goblins. LOL

Its not hostility..... realy.... i played dos 1 and 2 and liked them for what they are. So no its realy NOT hostility.
Its just larian is entirely incompetent and pathetic when it comes to realize a different franchise. They are super creative and realy good when they can do their own thing! But realizing a premade world with premade rules is something out of their experience and skill.

Eh, I disagree, but to each their own. I feel like they're doing fine overall. But that's just me. Honestly, if there's someone to blame with the direction of this game, take it up with WotC.

Apparently several companies tried to get WotC to let them make BG 3 over the years and they turned them all down until DO2 was such a success that they gave Larian the OK. And from what I understand, they are actively reviewing whatever Larian makes and pushes out in this game.

So the bulette being in the Underdark? That was approved by WotC. The lesser vampire wandering during the day due to Netherese infused tadpoles? WotC approved. So idk, clearly if the owners of the IP are letting it happen, I'd take it up with them. I'm just enjoying this for what it is.

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Clearly someone has a chip off their shoulder and is using it to hate everything lol

Also, it was already shown there's an in-game explanation. and there's an underdark version anyway, which means even if this is a mistake on Larian's part, it's a very simple name and stat adjustment situation.

Either way, this level of hostility is laughably extreme for such a weird little thing. Take a breather man. It's a minor thing in a very vast EA.

yep Stat adjustment..... larian is an expert here just check the goblins. LOL

Its not hostility..... realy.... i played dos 1 and 2 and liked them for what they are. So no its realy NOT hostility.
Its just larian is entirely incompetent and pathetic when it comes to realize a different franchise. They are super creative and realy good when they can do their own thing! But realizing a premade world with premade rules is something out of their experience and skill.

its ok if its just a few mild changes here and there, and even some cool properly made homebrew can be fine, but this there is far too much distance between D&D 5e and this game. There is SO MUCH missing, that its more of an inspired by, or D&D like game and that would be ok, if they didnt associate it with Baldurs gate, a prewritten D&D 5e strict adventure.
Where the rules, and monsters, and stats are all derived from a sense of "achieving the most fun and balanced version of D&D", When you start removing all of the fundamental aspects of D&D including rules, monsters, stats, and take liberties that go way beyond homebrew to being a different game entirely its just not very good.

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i guess you all failed to actually read stuff in the game, to learn that local Bulette was Mystras cleric pet brought there by her. The cleric that had built a whole mechanical arcane tower.

This should be the end of this thread.

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i guess you all failed to actually read stuff in the game, to learn that local Bulette was Mystras cleric pet brought there by her. The cleric that had built a whole mechanical arcane tower.

This should be the end of this thread.

Agreed.

[Hobocop]

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This should be the end of this thread.

Agreed.

'A wizard did it' tends to sum up all the weird nonsense in D&D.

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Agreed.

'A wizard . elf . cleric . god . beholder did it' tends to sum up all the weird nonsense in D&D. [/quote]

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Agreed.

'A wizard did it' tends to sum up all the weird nonsense in D&D.

This does in fact come with some caveats, mostly in that whatever a person has done has to be grounded and potentially possible.

With the one exception of Wish, the majority of even the most extraordinary occurrences must be grounded and in context.

[brendan_in_china]

The bulette is fine. Clearly we only reach the upper underdark in BG3 - it's accessible by ladder!

The treasure in its gullet however needs to be changed. Going by the letters warning Lenore, she's likely the owner of the wizard robe, shovel and bucket. But that robe of frenzy does not suit a cleric/wizard of Mystra. The robe of summer makes better sense.

[Metallicus]

Why are people always so negative? Can't you just have fun? SMH

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The bulette is fine. Clearly we only reach the upper underdark in BG3 - it's accessible by ladder!

The treasure in its gullet however needs to be changed. Going by the letters warning Lenore, she's likely the owner of the wizard robe, shovel and bucket. But that robe of frenzy does not suit a cleric/wizard of Mystra. The robe of summer makes better sense.

the treasure on a bulette is its scales which can be used to make shields. It cannot however carry any loot. Yup.