We want a Bladesinger subclass GIMME!

[A-Furyan]

Dew it- Sheev Palpatine, the Senate.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

List of subclasses I want to see added:

Bladesinger
Feywalker
Drunken Master
Wild Magic Barb
Cavalier
Pact of the Archfey
Death and Storm Domains
Shadow Sorcerer
Colleges of Glamour and Whispers
Scout and Swashbuckler
Circles of Wildfire and Dreams
Oath of the Watchers, Vengeance and Oathbreaker

[jk2l]

unfortunately, Bladesinger is from Tasha. so i won't have much hope to see it.

They already take so long to add different classes and feature. I have doubt that can implement all different subclasses.

I would rather hope they can build a good mod system, so we can add different subclasses/races from all other source book manually. or we can also homebrew ourself one too

for example, adding Goliath or Aarakocra also will be nice addition. and can be fun too

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pan Darius Kairos:

List of subclasses I want to see added:

Bladesinger
Feywalker
Drunken Master
Wild Magic Barb
Cavalier
Pact of the Archfey
Death and Storm Domains
Shadow Sorcerer
Colleges of Glamour and Whispers
Scout and Swashbuckler
Circles of Wildfire and Dreams
Oath of the Watchers, Vengeance and Oathbreaker

Most of those aren't PHB...XGE and Tashas Cauldron, so they most likely won't be included...It's not even clear to me, if their license would even include most of the stuff in the other sourcebooks.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Oprindeligt skrevet af jk2l:

unfortunately, Bladesinger is from Tasha. so i won't have much hope to see it.

They already take so long to add different classes and feature. I have doubt that can implement all different subclasses.

I would rather hope they can build a good mod system, so we can add different subclasses/races from all other source book manually. or we can also homebrew ourself one too

for example, adding Goliath or Aarakocra also will be nice addition. and can be fun too

Oddly enough, subclasses are one of the easiest things to add because the tend to already use most of what the parent class or another class is already using, and just have a slightly different spell list or a couple of skills that often work much like other skills already do, but with different names.

Of all the things Larian can add to the game, additional subclasses are the easiest.

[GuyFawx]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pan Darius Kairos:

List of subclasses I want to see added:

Oath of the Watchers, Vengeance and Oathbreaker

We cant have oathbreakers until we get paladins

[jk2l]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pan Darius Kairos:

Oprindeligt skrevet af jk2l:

unfortunately, Bladesinger is from Tasha. so i won't have much hope to see it.

They already take so long to add different classes and feature. I have doubt that can implement all different subclasses.

I would rather hope they can build a good mod system, so we can add different subclasses/races from all other source book manually. or we can also homebrew ourself one too

for example, adding Goliath or Aarakocra also will be nice addition. and can be fun too

Oddly enough, subclasses are one of the easiest things to add because the tend to already use most of what the parent class or another class is already using, and just have a slightly different spell list or a couple of skills that often work much like other skills already do, but with different names.

Of all the things Larian can add to the game, additional subclasses are the easiest.

yea, but then some may involve special logic. for example hexblade that modify crit roll to 19 or 20. this may require extra scripting

[seandeven]

Bladesinger....... Need more Wizards subclasses
and Cleric domains for that matter

Pact of the Archfey better get a glow-up
Great-Old-One still needs something for gimping telepathic communications

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Oprindeligt skrevet af jk2l:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pan Darius Kairos:

Oddly enough, subclasses are one of the easiest things to add because the tend to already use most of what the parent class or another class is already using, and just have a slightly different spell list or a couple of skills that often work much like other skills already do, but with different names.

Of all the things Larian can add to the game, additional subclasses are the easiest.

yea, but then some may involve special logic. for example hexblade that modify crit roll to 19 or 20. this may require extra scripting

The Champion subclass of Fighter (a PHB subclass) also modifies crits on 19 or 20.

Like I said, nearly every subclass ability or feature in the game is almost always replicated somewhere else, and spell lists are generic and shared across many classes and subclasses.

Adding subclasses is the easiest thing they can do as it requires little to no additional coding.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pan Darius Kairos:

Adding subclasses is the easiest thing they can do as it requires little to no additional coding.

It's also low priority beyond what's in the PHB and can be done after release as DLC/patch.
And as I have mentioned there might be licensing issues in the way. We don't know their license with WotC, it may very well be, they can't include anything from the additional Rulebooks, without making a sellable expansion where WotC gets a cut of the profit...wouldn't be exactly surprising for people that know WotC...

[wirednight]

The problem with the PHB subclasses is that some classes get a bunch of them, most get three, and some (like the bard) only get two.

So for the devs I'm guessing the question they are asking is how do we keep certain classes from feeling "lesser" because they only have two subclasses in the PHB? Do we go outside our license (or amend the current one if necessary) and start dipping into Tasha's? That's going to open a whole can of worms when every player suddenly sees that can opened, and wants their favorite subclass from their favorite class in Tasha's implemented. We have enough whining on the boards right now, we don't need "Well the Bard got a college from Tasha's".

The other way is just to give everyone two. That has the potential to backfire as well. Personally, I want the Pact of the Archfey for Warlocks. But I can see them adding it, and every bard player is going, " Why do we only get two colleges and Warlocks (or other classes) get three Pacts?" Trolling and whining ensue on Steam boards. But then if I don't get Archfey, I think I have a pretty good argument with the "Archfey is PHB, why didn't you release all PHB content, and why'd you pick Great Old One over Archfey?"

Curious to see how they work this out. Either way, whining and trolling ensue on Steam Boards no matter what they do.

Edit: My personal opinion is launch the game with every subclass in the PHB. They said they would release only PHB content, and they should pretty much release all of it. Race, Class and Subclass. If they don't they run the serious risk of looking like they are picking favorites.

Then afterwards poll the community for what subclasses from other content they want released and if WotC agrees, release it as DLC.

[Hole2Head]

Oprindeligt skrevet af seandeven:

Great-Old-One still needs something for gimping telepathic communications

As a goolock main, I completely agree. Really annoying how that hasn't been fixed yet. Maybe when the full game comes out in, oh I dunno, five or ten years. Ftaghn.