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cl656 Sep 8, 2022 @ 5:35am
Lorewise, Can a half-elf sorcerer of the draconic bloodline have a dragon as a parent?
Can a half-elf sorcerer of the draconic bloodline have a dragon as a biological parent?
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Coldhands Sep 8, 2022 @ 5:38am 
I don’t see why not.
skullymex Sep 8, 2022 @ 6:14am 
Yup
Typically, the 'bloodline' features refer to a distant ancestor, not a parent, but there's also nothing technically preventing the character from having the dragon as a parent either. Mechanically, it makes zero difference, and it's all role-playing anyway.

In BG3 you won't even have to specify exactly who in your lineage is the dragon because the game never asks you. All it does (aside from giving you access to a couple of extra spells) is affect some dialog choices and storylines.

"Daddy Dragon and Mommy Elf Maiden" will never come up in conversations because dialog is streamlined to be universally applicable to everyone. Meaning, your roleplaying all this in your own head-canon anyway, so yeah sure, your parents can be anything you dream of.
Ronin Gamer Sep 8, 2022 @ 3:13pm 
Rarely is that the case usually. Based on what I've read, most of the time in a dragon bloodline ancestor usually is from a ways back and manifests with the present person as a trait that doesn't show in every person down the line. You may be able to make the argument that the immediate child could manifest the power immediately.
Harukage Sep 8, 2022 @ 3:23pm 
A child of a dragon is a half-dragon. Duh.
And half-dragons themselves have a set of a very peculiar traits, depending on their dragon parent. And that by itself > than a mere draconic bloodline in some distant generation.
Offcouse there were cases when half-dragons lived without even knowing what they are and never expressed their clear draconic heritage. But that is exception rather than a rule.
Your innate magic comes from draconic magic that was mingled with your blood or that of your ancestors. Most often, sorcerers with this origin trace their descent back to a mighty sorcerer of ancient times who made a bargain with a dragon or who might even have claimed a dragon parent. Some of these bloodlines are well established in the world, but most are obscure. Any given sorcerer could be the first of a new bloodline, as a result of a pact or some other exceptional circumstance.
So, yes, it is possible, as has been said, however, it's reasonable to assume most of the time the magic would come from a pact or other bargain with a dragon, even from sorcerers who claim a real dragon in their ancestral bloodlines.
So having a dragon as a parent would be an extraordinary event, and most people would probably think you are only boasting and won't actually believe you, unless you have extraordinary proof etc...
Harukage Sep 8, 2022 @ 3:54pm 
Half-dragons are not really as rare though as people think. Dragons often have many children during their course of life, and one or two of them may come from other races.
The thing is some developed half-dragons may often be mistaken for a true dragons. There were some cases. While other, like Elminster's daughter are not different from a human, because she never knew that her mother was a dragon untill much into her adulthood.
Last edited by Harukage; Sep 8, 2022 @ 3:56pm
I've played enough bards to know that half-dragons aren't that rare.
Landrick93 Oct 1, 2022 @ 9:35pm 
No, as they'd be a half dragon in that case, and canonically they shouldn't be playable, PHG or otherwise, due to the fact that such a conception of them wouldn't be concentual by both parents
skullymex Oct 2, 2022 @ 2:04am 
Originally posted by Landrick93:
No, as they'd be a half dragon in that case, and canonically they shouldn't be playable, PHG or otherwise, due to the fact that such a conception of them wouldn't be concentual by both parents
Umm what? They didn't ask about playability, they asked if it's possible lore-wise.
Also nothing in the PHB states that your character has to be conceived consensually...if that's what you're implying? ...Wait, are you implying that elves can't consent to having sex with dragons?
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Harukage Oct 2, 2022 @ 2:25am 
Polymorphed dragons are too often even more alluring than elves. And most of the time they do not even tell you that they are dragons.
There are even subspecies like Song Dragons and Steel Dragons who spend most of their life in a polymorphed state living among humanoids.
Song Dragons in particular are almost exclusively female, with male ratio so low, that a female may never even find a partner of the same subspecie in her whole life. So they often breed with humans. They are also weird enough that they have legends about their ancestors been humans turned dragons. And that is actualy believeable, as such things happened in the lore. Because Mystra.
larhtas Oct 2, 2022 @ 3:05am 
Hi, I just have a dumb question here and I don't want to create an entire discussion about it so I ask into this thread. What is PHG?

Here Landrick is talking about it:
Originally posted by Landrick93:
... they shouldn't be playable, PHG or otherwise...
he mentions it a lot around this forum but I really don't know what it is. I now the term PHB (player hand book) for sure but I don't know PHG.

I've also made a research on this and google doesn't find anything.
Last edited by larhtas; Oct 2, 2022 @ 3:19am
skullymex Oct 2, 2022 @ 3:17am 
Originally posted by larhtas:
Hi, I just have a dumb question here and I don't want to create an entire discussion about it so I ask into this thread. What is PHG?

Here Landrick is talking about it:
Originally posted by Landrick93:
... they shouldn't be playable, PHG or otherwise...
he mentions it a lot around this forum but I really don't know what it is. I now the term PHB (player hand book) for sure but I don't know PHG.
Looking at the context in which they use it, I'm sure they mean PHB.
Landrick93 Oct 2, 2022 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by skullymex:
Originally posted by Landrick93:
No, as they'd be a half dragon in that case, and canonically they shouldn't be playable, PHG or otherwise, due to the fact that such a conception of them wouldn't be concentual by both parents
Umm what? They didn't ask about playability, they asked if it's possible lore-wise.
Also nothing in the PHB states that your character has to be conceived consensually...if that's what you're implying? ...Wait, are you implying that elves can't consent to having sex with dragons?
Who'd be ill enough in the head to consent to bestiality, in real life or in a fictional setting?
Hobocop Oct 2, 2022 @ 6:35pm 
Originally posted by Landrick93:
Originally posted by skullymex:
Umm what? They didn't ask about playability, they asked if it's possible lore-wise.
Also nothing in the PHB states that your character has to be conceived consensually...if that's what you're implying? ...Wait, are you implying that elves can't consent to having sex with dragons?
Who'd be ill enough in the head to consent to bestiality, in real life or in a fictional setting?

Your first mistake was assuming dragons are just animals and not thinking beings in their own right. Several of which are able to assume humanoid form no less. If that charming elf who is actually a dragon in disguise wanted to take it a step further and their prospective partner consented...well...so it goes.

Besides, in a setting with all sorts of magical rituals that bend reality, that's not exactly the only way half-dragons can be conceived.
Last edited by Hobocop; Oct 2, 2022 @ 6:37pm
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