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Shadowheart's Personality
Ever since people complained about Shadowheart's sarcasm, i feel like her personality died. I do admit that she was a little too sarcastic but they took it like ALLLLL away. She's completely different person now. Please bring back some of the sarcasm back?
Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:
Like others have said, I think the snark and sarcasm is still there, it's just not her default starting point if you save her from the ship at the start. She still has a couple of moments, but since you are starting with higher approval after rescuing her it might not show as much because she uses that mostly against people she doesn't like as something of a defense mechanism.
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Lλmbdλ Mar 31, 2022 @ 8:04am 
I think so too
Maybe it's only when you save her on the ship
God Queen 158 Mar 31, 2022 @ 8:35am 
You get approval on the beach now when you save Shadowheart, and her initial softer dialogue is tied to approval.

Gain some disapproval in the beginning in the form of recruiting Lae'zel while SH is in the party and she's back to her old self! I love snarky SH. I feel like it is more in line with her story line for her to be like that.
Pan Darius Cassandra Mar 31, 2022 @ 8:45am 
I disagree, she's still plenty sarcastic. What they took away (and not just from Shadowheart, but from all the characters) was the constant nagging and niggling they used to do over every little decision you made.
dpbrown777 Mar 31, 2022 @ 8:57am 
I've had some bad dice rolls in trying to talk to her. She's a mean piece of work. I really wanted to kill her off. Instead I made my own cleric, and keep her in camp. Not that Lae'zel is any better.
Lλmbdλ Mar 31, 2022 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by fancyMlar:
You get approval on the beach now when you save Shadowheart, and her initial softer dialogue is tied to approval.

It's cool to know that SH is truly greatful for her rescue and not just what she choose to show
In the other hand, it was so cool to feel a bond was made, earning trust and build frendship with time
I used to date a girl just like Shadowheart. I was pretty sure she hated me, but she assured me only 7 of her 20 personalities hated me. Or did I get that backwards...

anyway she never answered anything unless it was sarcasm. Talking to her was like trying to solve an infernal puzzle box. And I was not proficient.

theres people like this, that is to say, distant and guarded.
The only thing I don't like about Shadowheart is that I can't see the logic they used sometimes when determining whether or not she gets mad at something you say. She's the type who wants you to be brutally honest, but then theres other times where no matter what you pick she isnt happy. Its like she didnt even want you to talk to her at all. Which, yea, I dated girls like that too, but for a video game, its like dang. This girl is -really- difficult to get close to. Only exasperated by the fact that shes the -only- choice.

I know what I said.

But i've always liked those types. Yennefer, Miranda Lawson, Shadowheart. They embody "my type".

Btw its never worth it. So at least they got that part right.
God Queen 158 Mar 31, 2022 @ 10:53am 
From what I can tell, Shadowheart likes the following:

- if you make jokes - don't take the ribbing too seriously; kinda related to moments when you choose really sweet dialogue choices with her and she will usually make a joke in response. She's shy, but appreciates it!

- respect her privacy - explicitly through dialogue choices by either not pressing for more information or simply backing out of the convo entirely. Or just be gentle when asking for more info. if the game doesn't off a gentle option then its not the time or the place where you'll get an answer anyway!

- saving people in a clandestine or clever way (my assumption is that playing the hero triggers her, but she genuinely approves of saving people.) So you don't want to promise to save people outright, but if you create a scheme or just save them anyway without making promises - you will gain approval!

- be nice to animals!!!

Edit: Also, if SH is your ride or die - you probably want to work on softening her ASAP! You know shes on a do or die mission to give that puzzle box up. And you should assume what a cult of Shar will do to a loose end once its retrieved... Don't do it, SH!
Last edited by God Queen 158; Mar 31, 2022 @ 10:57am
Shadowheart like it when you succeed at Deception checks.
Hex Mar 31, 2022 @ 11:27am 
Not like it matters when we have like 40% of the companion story arcs in the game, so nobody has any idea where they are taking the characters.
[TVM] MissChloe Apr 1, 2022 @ 6:25pm 
Originally posted by pandariuskairos:
I disagree, she's still plenty sarcastic. What they took away (and not just from Shadowheart, but from all the characters) was the constant nagging and niggling they used to do over every little decision you made.
Blunt and Sarcasm are not the same.
[TVM] MissChloe Apr 1, 2022 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by dpbrown777:
I've had some bad dice rolls in trying to talk to her. She's a mean piece of work. I really wanted to kill her off. Instead I made my own cleric, and keep her in camp. Not that Lae'zel is any better.
I really hated Lae'zel. Never had a fail with Shadowheart yet. I am curious now lol
KeepCleaving Apr 1, 2022 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by Jiren, The Strongest:
I used to date a girl just like Shadowheart. I was pretty sure she hated me, but she assured me only 7 of her 20 personalities hated me. Or did I get that backwards...

anyway she never answered anything unless it was sarcasm. Talking to her was like trying to solve an infernal puzzle box. And I was not proficient.

theres people like this, that is to say, distant and guarded.
The only thing I don't like about Shadowheart is that I can't see the logic they used sometimes when determining whether or not she gets mad at something you say. She's the type who wants you to be brutally honest, but then theres other times where no matter what you pick she isnt happy. Its like she didnt even want you to talk to her at all. Which, yea, I dated girls like that too, but for a video game, its like dang. This girl is -really- difficult to get close to. Only exasperated by the fact that shes the -only- choice.

I know what I said.

But i've always liked those types. Yennefer, Miranda Lawson, Shadowheart. They embody "my type".

Btw its never worth it. So at least they got that part right.

So tldr Shadowheart is the most realistic woman portrayed in a videogame :P.
[TVM] MissChloe Apr 1, 2022 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by KeepCleaving:
Originally posted by Jiren, The Strongest:
I used to date a girl just like Shadowheart. I was pretty sure she hated me, but she assured me only 7 of her 20 personalities hated me. Or did I get that backwards...

anyway she never answered anything unless it was sarcasm. Talking to her was like trying to solve an infernal puzzle box. And I was not proficient.

theres people like this, that is to say, distant and guarded.
The only thing I don't like about Shadowheart is that I can't see the logic they used sometimes when determining whether or not she gets mad at something you say. She's the type who wants you to be brutally honest, but then theres other times where no matter what you pick she isnt happy. Its like she didnt even want you to talk to her at all. Which, yea, I dated girls like that too, but for a video game, its like dang. This girl is -really- difficult to get close to. Only exasperated by the fact that shes the -only- choice.

I know what I said.

But i've always liked those types. Yennefer, Miranda Lawson, Shadowheart. They embody "my type".

Btw its never worth it. So at least they got that part right.

So tldr Shadowheart is the most realistic woman portrayed in a videogame :P.
So... not really detailed... got it.
PocketYoda Apr 1, 2022 @ 8:29pm 
Its funny.. I disliked her as a sarcastic *&^$% but after they changed her i still dislike her.
Last edited by PocketYoda; Apr 1, 2022 @ 8:29pm
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Ronin Gamer Apr 1, 2022 @ 9:36pm 
Like others have said, I think the snark and sarcasm is still there, it's just not her default starting point if you save her from the ship at the start. She still has a couple of moments, but since you are starting with higher approval after rescuing her it might not show as much because she uses that mostly against people she doesn't like as something of a defense mechanism.
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