Frightened condition is broken and attack of opportunity

[Irolleda1]

So we fought a Beholder and one of my friends got frightened. The description of it states that the creature would run away from the source that it came from. My friends character actually kept running towards it even though there was plenty of space for him to run away. So obviously this caused him to get hit a few times. Also, you should still be able to make attacks with the person who is frightened but with disadvantage in which this didn't happen. The character would move by himself and immediately end its turn. If anything, you should have it where we are able to move our character to the location that is away from said source and still be able to do the other actions we are supposed to be allowed to do. Then there's attack of opportunity. I was locked into combat and the creature didn't disengage and moved away, I didn't get the chance to even swing on the creature. I do have the thing to be automated for that so I'm not sure if that matters to much. Or sometimes the creature would run past you to get to someone else and nothing gets triggered.

[Indure]

OAs are currently bugged. Like you witness, sometimes they don't trigger when you are engage on an enemy, and they never trigger if an enemy walks by you on their turn.

Fear usually works as intended, but I've seen many times where it bugs and the character either doesn't move at all or runs in an odd direction.

I don't believe you should get an attack if you are frightened.

[Alealexi]

Originally posted by Indure:

OAs are currently bugged. Like you witness, sometimes they don't trigger when you are engage on an enemy, and they never trigger if an enemy walks by you on their turn.

Fear usually works as intended, but I've seen many times where it bugs and the character either doesn't move at all or runs in an odd direction.

I don't believe you should get an attack if you are frightened.

Frighten only gives disadvantage on attack rolls and forces you not move closer to that creature that gave you the condition.

So as long as it is moving away from the creature that gave it the status or moves zero feet then it is working as intended.

[Indure]

Originally posted by Alealexi:

Originally posted by Indure:

OAs are currently bugged. Like you witness, sometimes they don't trigger when you are engage on an enemy, and they never trigger if an enemy walks by you on their turn.

Fear usually works as intended, but I've seen many times where it bugs and the character either doesn't move at all or runs in an odd direction.

I don't believe you should get an attack if you are frightened.

Frighten only gives disadvantage on attack rolls and forces you not move closer to that creature that gave you the condition.

So as long as it is moving away from the creature that gave it the status or moves zero feet then it is working as intended.

Thanks for the correction. As far as I can tell BG3 has never had frightened implemented correctly then. For example targets of menancing attacks have always acted as if the target has been turned.

[Irolleda1]

Originally posted by Indure:

Originally posted by Alealexi:

Frighten only gives disadvantage on attack rolls and forces you not move closer to that creature that gave you the condition.

So as long as it is moving away from the creature that gave it the status or moves zero feet then it is working as intended.

Thanks for the correction. As far as I can tell BG3 has never had frightened implemented correctly then. For example targets of menancing attacks have always acted as if the target has been turned.

So then technically you should be able to attack still while being frightened. It doesn't say you lose your actions for the duration of it like "paralyzed" says in its text.

[Carog the Fat]

I think Fear the 3rd level spell forces you to use your action to dash away from the target that frightened you. This is an amazing CC spell

Other wise frightened should be as commented above disadvantage and no movement closer to what ever caused it

[Oubley]

Aren't a lot of the creatures early in game immune to attacks of opportunity?

[Carog the Fat]

Originally posted by Oubley:

Aren't a lot of the creatures early in game immune to attacks of opportunity?

unless they added some special ability the only way to avoid AoO is to disengage, which is an action(or bonus for rogues)

Edit- Goblins get disengage as a bonus action from their race this is normal. and i love my goblin bard i am playing with friends that ability is so useful.

[Irolleda1]

Originally posted by Carog the Fat:

Originally posted by Oubley:

Aren't a lot of the creatures early in game immune to attacks of opportunity?

unless they added some special ability the only way to avoid AoO is to disengage, which is an action(or bonus for rogues)

Edit- Goblins get disengage as a bonus action from their race this is normal. and i love my goblin bard i am playing with friends that ability is so useful.

I don't think they have a special ability that lets them freely walk past you but I could be wrong. I've had the goblins actually use disengage in the game to get away, even when they were the same distance away from other fights I've had and they freely just walked away without taking a hit.

[Carog the Fat]

Originally posted by Zatchery Binks:

Originally posted by Carog the Fat:

unless they added some special ability the only way to avoid AoO is to disengage, which is an action(or bonus for rogues)

Edit- Goblins get disengage as a bonus action from their race this is normal. and i love my goblin bard i am playing with friends that ability is so useful.

I don't think they have a special ability that lets them freely walk past you but I could be wrong. I've had the goblins actually use disengage in the game to get away, even when they were the same distance away from other fights I've had and they freely just walked away without taking a hit.

not sure what you mean once you disengage you are immune to AoO from anyone n ot just the person who you were in melee with

[Irolleda1]

Originally posted by Carog the Fat:

I think Fear the 3rd level spell forces you to use your action to dash away from the target that frightened you. This is an amazing CC spell

Other wise frightened should be as commented above disadvantage and no movement closer to what ever caused it

Yea I read that in the rulebook for fear but if it was casted at 3rd level then the text should show the 3rd level text so that it's a little bit more understandable as to why the action is used. With the text showing you move away from the source with disadvantage on attacks, I don't think it was casted at the 3rd level. Yet again this was a damn beholder so it could very well did cast it that high and the text was just wrong. They still need to fix it though that your character isn't running at the source in which happened to us a few times. Because then if there is no where else to go (even though we had plenty of room to go anywhere else) then you're not supposed to move at all and you stay in that spot.

[Irolleda1]

Originally posted by Carog the Fat:

Originally posted by Zatchery Binks:

I don't think they have a special ability that lets them freely walk past you but I could be wrong. I've had the goblins actually use disengage in the game to get away, even when they were the same distance away from other fights I've had and they freely just walked away without taking a hit.

not sure what you mean once you disengage you are immune to AoO from anyone n ot just the person who you were in melee with

Correct, disengage only works for the person you're in contact with. So when you move away from that target and walk past another, that creature should still have AoO on them regardless if they used disengage or not

[Alealexi]

Originally posted by Zatchery Binks:

Originally posted by Carog the Fat:

not sure what you mean once you disengage you are immune to AoO from anyone n ot just the person who you were in melee with

Correct, disengage only works for the person you're in contact with. So when you move away from that target and walk past another, that creature should still have AoO on them regardless if they used disengage or not

Nope. The disengage action prevents all AoO when you move from anyone.

Here is the wording for the action.

Originally posted by PHB:

Disengage
If you take the Disengage action, your Movement doesn’t provoke Opportunity Attacks for the rest of the turn.

[Irolleda1]

Originally posted by Alealexi:

Originally posted by Zatchery Binks:

Correct, disengage only works for the person you're in contact with. So when you move away from that target and walk past another, that creature should still have AoO on them regardless if they used disengage or not

Nope. The disengage action prevents all AoO when you move from anyone.

Here is the wording for the action.

Originally posted by PHB:

Disengage
If you take the Disengage action, your Movement doesn’t provoke Opportunity Attacks for the rest of the turn.

Well ♥♥♥♥ me sideways. You are right. My bad! It's been a while since I actually played d&d and used disengage.

[Alealexi]

Originally posted by Zatchery Binks:

Originally posted by Alealexi:

Nope. The disengage action prevents all AoO when you move from anyone.

Here is the wording for the action.

Well ♥♥♥♥ me sideways. You are right. My bad! It's been a while since I actually played d&d and used disengage.

There is another feat that lets you ignore AoO from creatures you made an attack roll on. You don't have to hit for it to work.

[Irolleda1]

Originally posted by Alealexi:

Originally posted by Zatchery Binks:

Well ♥♥♥♥ me sideways. You are right. My bad! It's been a while since I actually played d&d and used disengage.

There is another feat that lets you ignore AoO from creatures you made an attack roll on. You don't have to hit for it to work.

Yea I'll have to look at those when I get home from work. It's been a hot second since I really read the PHB for 5E. Another thing I've noticed though in this game is that I'm currently playing a ranger. I remembered hail of thorns as a bonus action to use it and a spell slot. In the game though, they make it a action, bonus action and a spell slot just to use it. Or am I doing something wrong when using it in the game?