Sorcerer Has the ability to be the Best Class

[mitchellshort77]

So clearly as the title states Sorcerer is in my opinion is going to be the best class.
1st The ability to have access to long rest often means meta magic will be the best class feature to have in terms of versatility. as well as tense situations (heighten spell and subtle spell) in and out of combat are monsters without stating the obvious twin,quicken spell hell even carefull spell for party and companions.
2nd Subclass Wild magic-trash from a metagamers perspective from a RPG standpoint amazing. Draconic heighten ac on a spell caster with wings and a free resistance. Divine soul- Meta magic cleric spells without multiclassing Command at first lvl with twin or heighten can be a fight ender. and healing spells combo with your new meta magic to re roll healing Amazing.
3rd Charisma being the spell casting stat will also allow for the best dialog options without sacrificing power in character creation. (assuming headband of INT stays its amazing)

[Landomart]

I thought the plan was to max out at level 10? Dragon Wings wouldn't be in the game if that's the max level.

I think Assassin Rogue is going to become an extremely deadly class. Your first attack will always have Assassinate, since the game doesn't roll initiative until after your first attack from stealth is made, and that means the biggest drawback of the subclass is removed from the game.

[guard65]

Good class build is always a wise decision, but it will be based on the goals you seek to achieve.

I will always fight with a rock gnome wizard (/rogue) with a dagger and a dart. Just so i am disadvantaged enough to increase the challenge in the game. Easy is not my goal, so my builds will go a different direction altogether.

[NixAhmose]

Originally posted by Landomart:

I thought the plan was to max out at level 10? Dragon Wings wouldn't be in the game if that's the max level.

I think Assassin Rogue is going to become an extremely deadly class. Your first attack will always have Assassinate, since the game doesn't roll initiative until after your first attack from stealth is made, and that means the biggest drawback of the subclass is removed from the game.

Larian said they're going to increase the limit of it past 10 a bit, but I doubt we'll see any levels past 13, especially 15.

[Razorblade]

Originally posted by Landomart:

I thought the plan was to max out at level 10? Dragon Wings wouldn't be in the game if that's the max level.

Max level is going to be higher than 10. We're not sure how much higher yet, however.
https://youtu.be/S5__muccL1c?t=3101

[mitchellshort77]

Originally posted by Landomart:

I thought the plan was to max out at level 10? Dragon Wings wouldn't be in the game if that's the max level.

I think Assassin Rogue is going to become an extremely deadly class. Your first attack will always have Assassinate, since the game doesn't roll initiative until after your first attack from stealth is made, and that means the biggest drawback of the subclass is removed from the game.

I have seen that around 10 is the lvl cap but IMO I think most sub classes get something at 13-14 they my not include it but something tells me they will either it be DLC way later or in full access

[blahisgreat]

Ooooh! Is Divine Soul a confirmed subclass for this game? I rlly hope they add goblin so i can play my divine soul goblin in this game.

[Razorblade]

Originally posted by blahisgreat:

Ooooh! Is Divine Soul a confirmed subclass for this game? I rlly hope they add goblin so i can play my divine soul goblin in this game.

I wouldn't get your hopes up over anything outside the PHB. Not saying it won't happen, but it's pretty unlikely you're going to get both Goblin and Divine Soul (outside of mods, which will have all of that, of course).

[TheBlueFox]

Playing AS a goblin is probably not going to be at all included in the game, as it would require a COMPLETE rework of the entire act 1.

Like, that would require more things to manipulate than just extra dialogue options

[mitchellshort77]

Originally posted by blahisgreat:

Ooooh! Is Divine Soul a confirmed subclass for this game? I rlly hope they add goblin so i can play my divine soul goblin in this game.

IRL I play a divine soul sorcerer of candlekeep who is basically trying to successfully cast karsus avatar. So its not confirmed yet but that is my dream in this game just give me the cloister scholar background and divine soul and I am happy

[mitchellshort77]

Originally posted by TheBlueFox:

Playing AS a goblin is probably not going to be at all included in the game, as it would require a COMPLETE rework of the entire act 1.

Like, that would require more things to manipulate than just extra dialogue options

I don't personally think it would require a rework though some very drastic and interesting dialog options would suffice. Imagine training the teifling in druid grove how to fight goblins because your a goblin. and standing in front of the crossbow would have such a deeper meaning. A rouge goblin moping the floor with other goblins outside the camp. Then going the evil side would most defonitly provide a deeper insight into the goblin camp and flesh it out more. A goblin giving singing lessons atop a mountain to a bard. cmon a rework f that it would be amazing as is.

[mitchellshort77]

Originally posted by guard65:

Good class build is always a wise decision, but it will be based on the goals you seek to achieve.

I will always fight with a rock gnome wizard (/rogue) with a dagger and a dart. Just so i am disadvantaged enough to increase the challenge in the game. Easy is not my goal, so my builds will go a different direction altogether.

That sounds like a dope PC. Hafling Barbarian is my favorite class to play. you use a great sword but all your attacks have disadvantage but reckless makes them straight. got that PC to lvl 14 before a feeblemind ended his life ... RIp

[NixAhmose]

Originally posted by TheBlueFox:

Playing AS a goblin is probably not going to be at all included in the game, as it would require a COMPLETE rework of the entire act 1.

Like, that would require more things to manipulate than just extra dialogue options

Wait how would being a goblin require a complete rework of act 1?

[bullse]

Originally posted by Diedkid:

Wait how would being a goblin require a complete rework of act 1?

Other than the Underground, the main thing you are fighting is a crap ton of....Goblins?
Not sure if playing a Gobbo would require a 'complete rework' but there would be some creative story making on Larian's part to be had for a Goblin being a race that could be played without having issues going against other Goblins. But hey, it's all conjecture anyhow.

[NixAhmose]

Originally posted by bullse:

Other than the Underground, the main thing you are fighting is a crap ton of....Goblins?
Not sure if playing a Gobbo would require a 'complete rework' but there would be some creative story making on Larian's part to be had for a Goblin being a race that could be played without having issues going against other Goblins. But hey, it's all conjecture anyhow.

I don't see what's the big issue with having a goblin kill other goblins. Hell, goblins do that all the time, especially these ones considering that if you ask around it becomes pretty clear that goblins worshipping the Absolute murdered almost every other goblin that didn't convert.
Besides, if a human character doesn't need creative writing to explain why they would kill human bandits, I don't see why the same logic couldn't be used for a goblin character.

[(Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes]

Originally posted by mitchellshort77:

So clearly as the title states Sorcerer is in my opinion is going to be the best class.
1st The ability to have access to long rest often means meta magic will be the best class feature to have in terms of versatility. as well as tense situations (heighten spell and subtle spell) in and out of combat are monsters without stating the obvious twin,quicken spell hell even carefull spell for party and companions.
2nd Subclass Wild magic-trash from a metagamers perspective from a RPG standpoint amazing. Draconic heighten ac on a spell caster with wings and a free resistance. Divine soul- Meta magic cleric spells without multiclassing Command at first lvl with twin or heighten can be a fight ender. and healing spells combo with your new meta magic to re roll healing Amazing.
3rd Charisma being the spell casting stat will also allow for the best dialog options without sacrificing power in character creation. (assuming headband of INT stays its amazing)

Hexblade Warlock + Divine Sorc will be the strongest class in the game.