Human Druid starting stats?

[DontOpenDeadInside]

As a human you get +1 to every stat, Wisdom and Constitution being the most important stats and Dex being a good stat to be 14. You are left to choose STR, INT and CHA

So my stats would be at minimum:

STR: 9
DEX: 14
CON: 16
INT: 9
WIS: 16
CHA: 9

Which would leave 4 points to be used. How would you use them? I was thinking make every 9 at least 10 so I won't get the -1 on anything but then last point is worthless right as it won't give +1 to anything really?

[Dinonoms]

You May want to look into feats. There are bunch of so called half-feats that increase one Attribute while providing something else in addition

[Dorok]

Charisma 13 to have various dialog skills check choice more doable, that said a druid also have often special dialog options.

Or STR 13 each point count for carry capacity.

About odd numbers magic item with +1 give them a utility but I didn't quote any in first parts of BG3. They can also allow have more point buy to spread on more attributes and have at level 4 two odd attributes with +1 each.

Both STR and CHA are sort of comfort attributes so CHA 12 STR 10 makes sense.

[DontOpenDeadInside]

Originally posted by Pumis:

Originally posted by DeadlyGreed:

As a human you get +1 to every stat, Wisdom and Constitution being the most important stats and Dex being a good stat to be 14. You are left to choose STR, INT and CHA

So my stats would be at minimum:

STR: 9
DEX: 14
CON: 16
INT: 9
WIS: 16
CHA: 9

Which would leave 4 points to be used. How would you use them? I was thinking make every 9 at least 10 so I won't get the -1 on anything but then last point is worthless right as it won't give +1 to anything really?

Charisma and 1 point to strength. You need 10 strength for medium armors and charisma is important attribute for main character.

I didn't know about strength requirement so thanks a a lot :)

Anyone can tell if -1 to INT is a big deal?

[alrik1119]

I will perhaps delete all of my current saves later on today after getting off work and newly create a male human Druid that I will name Arak in this great game.

[alrik1119]

Druids look great and powerful in this game.

[DontOpenDeadInside]

Originally posted by alrik1119:

Druids look great and powerful in this game.

Also very importantly FUN and versatile!

[dolby]

doesn't really matter it's 5e it more depands on what you want... better charisma save vs bane not that anyone will cast it, maybe better dialogue checks with persuasion, Intimidation ? more carry weight, longer jump? Maybe a dex weapon and better dex save? Better skill checks with int the likes of Nature, Religion

i would go with dex or str.. just pick what you like and roll with it after all it's EA so you will have to start all over again at full release or for second playthrough.

i mean if i had to pick i wound never go with human in the first place anyway.

[Dorok]

Why not human? For attributes they allow have more attributes with higher stats and no matter how, pure min max without bother on carry, HP level, and charisma dialog is a weak main character choice. Adds to that WIS and DEX that are a bit natural for Druid, and anyway DEX is a must in BG3 due to the tactical dominance of long range, and you have 5 attributes to support.

That said see in darker areas is annoying, if at least the game had 2 weapons set for close range this would be less annoying.

[dolby]

Originally posted by Dorok:

That said see in darker areas is annoying, if at least the game had 2 weapons set for close range this would be less annoying.

This is why and because the humans always had a bonus feat in other Dnd versions and i hated that. It made all other races weaker ish... Now finally they do not get it so i can play with other races as normal. i hope they never add variant human and i love how Larian skiped that bravo... On a side not why would i play a human in highfantasy game with all those cool other races so boring.

Anyway, going of topic you don't need all those stats spread out like that. It's a party game so you can just share the skills between party and specialize.

[Dorok]

You can't switch for a dialog, hence move without control the character for dialog is a bit annoying. And have the character for dialog that have crap STR is rather annoying too.

Sure it's not optimized but it's a lot more comfortable and perfectly playable. For picking lock or disarm trap its more fluid even more with dice shown that warn you on something. For other special actions not related to dialog you can't repeat, it's fluid too.

[DontOpenDeadInside]

Originally posted by dolby:

Originally posted by Dorok:

That said see in darker areas is annoying, if at least the game had 2 weapons set for close range this would be less annoying.

This is why and because the humans always had a bonus feat in other Dnd versions and i hated that. It made all other races weaker ish... Now finally they do not get it so i can play with other races as normal. i hope they never add variant human and i love how Larian skiped that bravo... On a side not why would i play a human in highfantasy game with all those cool other races so boring.

Anyway, going of topic you don't need all those stats spread out like that. It's a party game so you can just share the skills between party and specialize.

Well the Dragonborn aren't in the game yet so I can't choose it yet, I don't like the other two good choices: Drow and Dwarf.

Dragonborn being not so good Druid race with their +2str +1int could I just take the points off of str and int and put them on Wis/con? So make STR 8 which makes the race stat turn it into the needed 10. But then again the int stat would be wasted. hmhm

[dolby]

Originally posted by DeadlyGreed:

Well the Dragonborn aren't in the game yet so I can't choose it yet, I don't like the other two good choices: Drow and Dwarf.

Dragonborn being not so good Druid race with their +2str +1int could I just take the points off of str and int and put them on Wis/con? So make STR 8 which makes the race stat turn it into the needed 10. But then again the int stat would be wasted. hmhm

No i get you, it's cool that you play human, nothing wrong with it. You play what you like i totally like your choice for you. I was just explaining my reasons everybody likes different things just the way it is.

This is what i was trying to get a across you can just roleplay when picking the race especially IN EAs ACt 1. Lots of stuff just isn't there yet so you don't need all the stats like you would in a Full game and max level is 4 so that changes things.
But apparently you need str 10 for armor not sure why. i have to admit i didn't know that, not sure when this happened. I'm pretty sure i dumped str in EA at some point.

And about dragonborn not sure if they will be in i think some did say they will be added not sure. I'm hoping that in full game they will let us roll for stats anyway so i can pick feats at 4th levels..

[Indure]

If you plan on playing a druid that wildshapes often, then your physical stats (str, dex, con) are replaced by the form's stats. So you would want your stats to be focused on wis, cha, int. I don't think you should completely tank dex or con so you can still have survivability outside of wildshapes, but they can be lower than you think.

[Indure]

Originally posted by Pumis:

Originally posted by DeadlyGreed:

As a human you get +1 to every stat, Wisdom and Constitution being the most important stats and Dex being a good stat to be 14. You are left to choose STR, INT and CHA

So my stats would be at minimum:

STR: 9
DEX: 14
CON: 16
INT: 9
WIS: 16
CHA: 9

Which would leave 4 points to be used. How would you use them? I was thinking make every 9 at least 10 so I won't get the -1 on anything but then last point is worthless right as it won't give +1 to anything really?

Charisma and 1 point to strength. You need 10 strength for medium armors and charisma is important attribute for main character.

Almost 100% sure the 10 str for medium armor is a bug. Medium armor has no strength requirements in 5e, and only scale mail seems to have a strength requirements. Which even for EA, is inconsequential since Lae'zel's armor provides the same AC.

[Indure]

Originally posted by Pumis:

Originally posted by Indure:

If you plan on playing a druid that wildshapes often, then your physical stats (str, dex, con) are replaced by the form's stats. So you would want your stats to be focused on wis, cha, int. I don't think you should completely tank dex or con so you can still have survivability outside of wildshapes, but they can be lower than you think.

Kind of true, In early game this is the case but in the end of the day he is full caster regardless of the subclass. 14 dex is must have and high con check as well. While STR is something to be ignored. Dex is for initiation and defense and con is for concentration checks and HP.

Originally posted by Indure:

Almost 100% sure the 10 str for medium armor is a bug. Medium armor has no strength requirements in 5e, and only scale mail seems to have a strength requirements. Which even for EA, is inconsequential since Lae'zel's armor provides the same AC.

I agree, there is no mention that has to have 10 but it doesn't allow equip unless you have.

If you want to have high dex and con you can, there is nothing wrong with it, but I find both to be not particular valuable if you are heavily leaning into wildshapes.

Dex has little to no damage value for human druids since they are only proficient with slings and darts (which I'm not 100% sure are even in BG3 currently). It's a nice boost to AC, but if you are spending 50% of the time in wildshape, being +10% harder to hit, half the time isn't as valuable. The bonus to initiative is nice as well, but you can start many fights with the druid, insuring they go first.

Con is valuable if you plan on spending a lot of time outside of wildshape, but if your general playstyle is to throw down a strong concentration spell and then bonus action into a wolf, spider, or bear then you can have 10 con and not be that negatively impacted.