Lockpicking Failed

[wookie120]

Have an 18 Dexterity, the Sleight of Hand skill, yet I am unable to pick locks all of a sudden. Character class is Ranger.

[The 13th Ghost Bunny]

Sometimes I'll pick a lock on my first attempt, but at other times I'll fail to pick the same lock over and over again till I'm out of tools; it seems fairly random. Always save before attempting to pick a lock so you don't waist thieves tools.

[wookie120]

Thank you, so one does not have to be a thief to pick locks?

[The 13th Ghost Bunny]

I don't think you need to be a rogue to pick locks, you just need to have thieves tools in the inventory of the character you're trying to pick locks with. I think certain stats and feats improve your lockpicking (sleight of hand maybe?), but I'm really not 100% sure how lockpicking works.

[Zangetsu]

Originally posted by Tinball13:

Sleight of Hand does nothing for lock picking. In 5e Open lock is straight dex roll. Add your proficiency bonus if you are proficient and have thieves tools. I have no idea how they calculate it in BG3.

I think in BG3 sleight of hand is interchangeable with thieves tools proficiency. If you create a ranger you will notice urban tracker gives proficiency in thieves tools and what shows up is sleight of hand proficiency.

I am pretty sure lockpicking is broken though. Every time I fail an attempt, every roll after that fails to the point where if I fail I just go for bashing the lock open.

[Alealexi]

Originally posted by wookie120:

Thank you, so one does not have to be a thief to pick locks?

No, That has never been rogue a thing in D&D for any edition. In 5e rogues naturally have proficiency with thieves' tools and everyone has to get it by either a background, skilled feat, or in game training that your DM lets you train in.

RAW sleight of hand does not help with thieves' tools at all. That is just a homebrew thing that most DM's use and is implemented in BG3.

[Ronin Gamer]

Even with good stats and SoH, you can fail to pick something. It can be rare, but it can happen. And if a character fails the attempt, you aren't going to make it work with that character after that, you'll just waste your tools. Think of it like the skill check is checking if the character is capable enough to get through the lock, if they can't, then they just don't know how to do it and will break all their lockpicks trying to do it if they don't know.

[Zangetsu]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Even with good stats and SoH, you can fail to pick something. It can be rare, but it can happen. And if a character fails the attempt, you aren't going to make it work with that character after that, you'll just waste your tools. Think of it like the skill check is checking if the character is capable enough to get through the lock, if they can't, then they just don't know how to do it and will break all their lockpicks trying to do it if they don't know.

If its going to lock you out of completeing after a fail, game shouldnt let you attempt to pick after a fail. Whats the point its just a noob trap to waste all your picks.

[Ronin Gamer]

Originally posted by Zangetsu:

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Even with good stats and SoH, you can fail to pick something. It can be rare, but it can happen. And if a character fails the attempt, you aren't going to make it work with that character after that, you'll just waste your tools. Think of it like the skill check is checking if the character is capable enough to get through the lock, if they can't, then they just don't know how to do it and will break all their lockpicks trying to do it if they don't know.

If its going to lock you out of completeing after a fail, game shouldnt let you attempt to pick after a fail. Whats the point its just a noob trap to waste all your picks.

Because you can pick with a different character and possibly get through it. Just explaining what it feels like when you're sitting there breaking all your lockpicks.

[Zangetsu]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Originally posted by Zangetsu:

If its going to lock you out of completeing after a fail, game shouldnt let you attempt to pick after a fail. Whats the point its just a noob trap to waste all your picks.

Because you can pick with a different character and possibly get through it. Just explaining what it feels like when you're sitting there breaking all your lockpicks.

Just saying the game doesnt tell you that multiple attempts with the same character are pointless and a waste of resources and is a noob trap.

[Ronin Gamer]

Originally posted by Zangetsu:

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Because you can pick with a different character and possibly get through it. Just explaining what it feels like when you're sitting there breaking all your lockpicks.

Just saying the game doesnt tell you that multiple attempts with the same character are pointless and a waste of resources and is a noob trap.

Ok so why are we still bringing that up? You sound like you have a personal beef with the game, so more power to ya I guess? I'm going to go and have some fun with something else rather than continue this conversation that's not really going anywhere. Night.

[Zangetsu]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Originally posted by Zangetsu:

Just saying the game doesnt tell you that multiple attempts with the same character are pointless and a waste of resources and is a noob trap.

Ok so why are we still bringing that up? You sound like you have a personal beef with the game, so more power to ya I guess? I'm going to go and have some fun with something else rather than continue this conversation that's not really going anywhere. Night. :bonfire2:

Im providing feedback? I actually love this game.