Is Darkness + Devil's Sight still not working?

[Telsker Sonpos]

For Wyll I took both the Darkness spell and Devil's Sight as an Eldritch invocation, and he still can't shoot anything from within the spell...
As intended, it doesn't blind him, but he still acts like he can't see through it...

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

It was fixed in patch 4, but seems to be borken again in patch 5...

[Telsker Sonpos]

I see...
Game developpment is not an easy thing, but I hope they will fix that soon.

[Wolff]

When this gets fixed. If any class that can learn the Devil's Sight spell be able to shoot out of Darkness or is this ability only for Warlocks? Would be pointless to learn the spell for other classes then.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Publicado originalmente por Wolff:

When this gets fixed. If any class that can learn the Devil's Sight spell be able to shoot out of Darkness or is this ability only for Warlocks? Would be pointless to learn the spell for other classes then.

Devil's Sight is a Warlock invocation, but I think there's a Feat that let's you take an Invocation as long as it doesn't have any specific Warlock requirements (such as a specific pact or Warlock level)? For example, you could pick up Eldritch Blast and Agonizing Blast (since the only requirement for Agonizing Blast is having Eldritch Blast)...or Devil's Sight (you'll have to get Darkness by playing a caster that has access to it...or by playing a Drow I think...)

[Telsker Sonpos]

Publicado originalmente por Pumis:

Publicado originalmente por Davids55:

For Wyll I took both the Darkness spell and Devil's Sight as an Eldritch invocation, and he still can't shoot anything from within the spell...
As intended, it doesn't blind him, but he still acts like he can't see through it...

You can melee in darkness but can't shoot in it. This was the case even in patch 4 when I tested it.

Well, Devil's Sight is supposed to let you see through it. So, both melee and ranged attacks should be possible for the warlock.

[Telsker Sonpos]

Publicado originalmente por Pumis:

Publicado originalmente por Davids55:

Well, Devil's Sight is supposed to let you see through it. So, both melee and ranged attacks should be possible for the warlock.

I agree, but as I said melee attacks are still viable.
However in my honest opinion darkness and hiding function in current game should change if this devil sight + darkness combo is suppose to be allowed. Since right now hiding is bonus action, which would allow player to hit and run without consequences. Made warlock run before and that combo was ridiculously broken because bonus action on hiding.

I completely agree. Bonus action hide is supposed to be a Rogue only thing, not every class should be able to do it. And because Rogues don't have access to Devil's Sight (I don't even know if actual multiclassing will be a thing in this game), they can't benefit from Darkness.
However, I think Warlocks with DS should be able to benefit from it, even from a balance standpoint.
This combo is not free : it costs concentration (which is a big deal for a warlock because no Hex means less damage), also 1 Eldritch Invocation, and 1 spell choice amongst a lot of other really good ones.

[Telsker Sonpos]

Publicado originalmente por Pumis:

Publicado originalmente por Davids55:

I completely agree. Bonus action hide is supposed to be a Rogue only thing, not every class should be able to do it. And because Rogues don't have access to Devil's Sight (I don't even know if actual multiclassing will be a thing in this game), they can't benefit from Darkness.
However, I think Warlocks with DS should be able to benefit from it, even from a balance standpoint.
This combo is not free : it costs concentration (which is a big deal for a warlock because no Hex means less damage), also 1 Eldritch Invocation, and 1 spell choice amongst a lot of other really good ones.

They would still need to do some changes to A.I behavior so that they would at least try to attack the region where someone went hiding if under vision blocking spell. In PnP DM basically makes enemies trying to attack spots at random and trying to hit something.

True. The melee attacks would be at disadvantage, but that would not mean being immune to them, which is broken.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Publicado originalmente por Davids55:

Publicado originalmente por Pumis:

I agree, but as I said melee attacks are still viable.
However in my honest opinion darkness and hiding function in current game should change if this devil sight + darkness combo is suppose to be allowed. Since right now hiding is bonus action, which would allow player to hit and run without consequences. Made warlock run before and that combo was ridiculously broken because bonus action on hiding.

I completely agree. Bonus action hide is supposed to be a Rogue only thing, not every class should be able to do it. And because Rogues don't have access to Devil's Sight (I don't even know if actual multiclassing will be a thing in this game), they can't benefit from Darkness.

Multiclassing will be added by release - but what's to stop a Rogue from taking Eldritch Adept (other than maybe Larian hasn't added it to the game yet) and picking up Devil's Sight?

[SpeltCaster]

This still is a problem,

[Zeel Ara]

Publicado originalmente por SpeltCaster:

This still is a problem,

No, it works perfectly fine. You're doing something wrong.

[DemocratesPizzaGate]

This game is FULL OF BUGS.

[Panda]

Publicado originalmente por DemocratesPizzaGate:

This game is FULL OF BUGS.

Dhampir should handle them perfetcly.

[Rex]

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