Dragonborn - Tailless or Tails?

[Cirayu]

Personally I'm hoping they don't have tails as all the information I have read is that dragonborn do NOT have tails or wings, basically "humans with dragon faces/skin" - But I am marginally worried they'll copy over the lizards from Divinity: OS 2 and call it dragonborn,
Since the classes I want to play benefit from either strength or charisma, it's the perfect race, now they jsut need to not have massive clipping wobbly appendages like Tieflings do,

Do people agree that since Lore says No tails, they should have no tails?

In the DND PHB:
P r o u d D r a g o n K i n
Dragonborn look very much like dragons standing erect
in humanoid form, though they lack w ings or a tail. The
first dragonborn had scales of vibrant hues matching
the colors of their dragon kin, but generations of
interbreeding have created a m ore uniform appearance.

[skullymex]

I don't see why they would have tails if the source material states that they do not. But tbh I wouldn't be bothered either way.

[Peanut]

The Draconblood subrace of Dragonborn detailed in the Explorer's Guide to Wildmount canonically possess long tails. Granted, Wildmount, while an official book, is written as its own world with its own themes. So you can take that or leave that.

Personally I don't care either way - the option to add or remove tails would do fine as well.
I know plenty of players who prefer to give their Dragonborn tails anyway,

[Ronin Gamer]

Larian will very likely stick to what the rule book says, so likely no tails. Personally I don't care either way so long as we get the race.

[Lethan]

Personally I'd want them with a tail.
The amount of angry people over this honestly confuses me.

End of the day, Larian will do what they want. Remember the golden rule, the DM can change a rule on a whim. This whole game is basically a Storyteller homebrewing a few things to fit a videogame format and some Artistic desires.

[Thomas]

No horns or tails in the Forgotten Realms setting, and personally I like that, plus makes meshing easier for Larian.

[♚︎ Alex]

Could go either way, Might even have both similar to the Tieflings hornless option. Just from browsing D&D fanart here and there it really goes either way. Side note, but I don't think I've ever seen fanart of a female Dragonborn before, so I'm curious to see what those look like.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

To hell with dragonbro, we need half dragons or draconians.

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

Just as long as they can "Fus Ro Dah"... ,err brearhe fire I'll be happy. It'd be better though if they breathed what ever element their Dragon blood is aligned to "Breath of Fire" Dragon Clan FTW~~!

https://youtu.be/YyzF67UvxjQ

[N/A]

Originally posted by Cirayu:

But I am marginally worried they'll copy over the lizards from Divinity: OS 2 and call it dragonborn

I wouldn't worry about that honestly, the two are in different classes of weight and physique and anyone in Larian who considered the idea probably knows how funny and lazy it would look if they just ported lizards over

[KaffeeRausch]

This official picture shows a Dragonblood Dragonborne with a tail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEd_1du-bUY

But they still have no horns or wings.

I think the Draconblood variant was only put into a rule book, so that all the people are satisfied who say "Dragons as lizards need a tail".


I would also be in favor of female dragonborne not having a bust size, if they are not half-dragons and were only bred from dragons, where should the mammalian part come from?


Tabaxi / Kenku players with their bards also say "The hair on the head is of course a wig", at Dragonborne you could also make it so that it partially disguises itself so that it looks less scary to other peoples.

[Cirayu]

Originally posted by Niob87:

This official picture shows a Dragonblood Dragonborne with a tail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEd_1du-bUY

But they still have no horns or wings.

I think the Draconblood variant was only put into a rule book, so that all the people are satisfied who say "Dragons as lizards need a tail".


I would also be in favor of female dragonborne not having a bust size, if they are not half-dragons and were only bred from dragons, where should the mammalian part come from?


Tabaxi / Kenku players with their bards also say "The hair on the head is of course a wig", at Dragonborne you could also make it so that it partially disguises itself so that it looks less scary to other peoples.

That isn't the PHB Dragonborn though,
Also regarding wigs, what's the point of being a dragonborn if you try to hide how cool they look with a wig to be "less scary"

[A Big Hairy Monster]

Originally posted by Lethan:

Personally I'd want them with a tail.
The amount of angry people over this honestly confuses me.

Fans of a particular IP, be that books, game, comics, movies, whatever, generally highly dislike it when adaptations of said IP fail to get details correct. That's all it is: a desire for verisimilitude.

Given that Dragonborn, since their inception in 4E (I am not counting 3.5 as the 'Dragonborn' in that edition were not a species with their own history, but rather individuals who underwent a kind of arcane transformation ritual. It's like calling 'Lich' a race), not a single piece of official art I can think of, nor in-game descriptions, has depicted natural dragonborn as possessing tails or wings. They could *get* them, I believe, in 4E, via a feat I think, and can get ones that compliment their nature via prestige classes or paragon paths, but they don't have them normally.

And while Wildemount may have introduced a subrace that do, said subrace does not canonically exist in Forgotten Realms, and it goes directly against the official description in the PHB, which calls out the fact that they lack wings and tails. For that matter, Wildemount was written by Matt Mercer, not WotC, and thus to a lot of D&D fans is only kind of half-official. (It is not, for example, allowed in organized play via Adventurer's League.) Calling it canon isn't unlike saying the Rick & Morty book contents are canon, or that the Magic The Gathering Plane Shift articles are canon, just because they were published by WotC.

Mind you, *I* would allow those things in my campaign, and indeed if you can justify it my current GM allows it as well (our last campaign was set in Ravenloft, for example, and she allowed me to play a Boros Legionnaire because Ravenloft has a connection with all settings). But that's houseruling, which every group does differently.

[KaffeeRausch]

Originally posted by Cirayu:

Originally posted by Niob87:

This official picture shows a Dragonblood Dragonborne with a tail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEd_1du-bUY

But they still have no horns or wings.

I think the Draconblood variant was only put into a rule book, so that all the people are satisfied who say "Dragons as lizards need a tail".


I would also be in favor of female dragonborne not having a bust size, if they are not half-dragons and were only bred from dragons, where should the mammalian part come from?


Tabaxi / Kenku players with their bards also say "The hair on the head is of course a wig", at Dragonborne you could also make it so that it partially disguises itself so that it looks less scary to other peoples.

That isn't the PHB Dragonborn though,
Also regarding wigs, what's the point of being a dragonborn if you try to hide how cool they look with a wig to be "less scary"

At least there are players who think "With a little make-up, the wrong head hair and a scarf on your face, you wouldn't have the wrong people's attention".

These players mean the thing that Tabaxi fur and Kitsume tails are worth a lot of gold, at least for Illigallen Sinister Traders.

Although there are some players who want modifications from HB games.


PS: Yes the Draconblood are not from the PHB, but according to the Gith you can't be 100% sure what will go into the finished game, so * bonus * sub-races are possible.

[garytwinem]

If you're playing a Kajiit or Argonian, then yeah, otherwise, nope. 🙂

[Athloner]

With tails