Is killing goblin children.......

[cire87]

Is killing goblin children considered lawful good or chaotic evil ?

[Mr Fred]

Diedkid の投稿を引用：

Mr Fred の投稿を引用：

Goblin are all evil no matter what in the BG3 setting Forgotten Realms and killing baby goblin isnt evil at all.

Source : Cattie Brie in the latest companions of the hall trilogy after communing with her (good) goddess for decades.

Actually goblins aren't inherently all evil, at least in 5th edition forgotten realms. They're just most likely to be evil due to their culture and upbringing. WoTC having been moving away from characterizing sentient races as inherently anything.

Good thing the book I cited is based on 5e then... Night of the hunter page 51 of the companion codex trilogy.

"They are not people," she said softly. "They are monsters. This is not true of the other races, not even of the tieflings, who claim demonic ancestry, for they unlike goblinkin, have free will and reason in matters of conscience. True and full goblinkin do not, I say; Mielikki says."

There is then a comparison that you would be safer to raise a lion cub than baby goblin.

[[TG] zac]

Hazarddex の投稿を引用：

Chaotic evil. Don't forget you can play as good goblins in dnd.

The goblins were torturing a bear and bragging how they killed the guy. (kind of behavior child Psychopaths enjoy before becoming serial killers)

Just because you can play as one doesn't mean they are all good.

[Grimm Carrolls]

cire87 の投稿を引用：

LevelSix_SYSTEM の投稿を引用：

Thats cause tree huggin hippy druids are pure evil lol they are the only ones going round killin kids in BG3 thus far

its not his fault its just default AI but the lady in the grove shes dipping deep into evil

Debatable. Druids believe in balance, and Halsim is actively trying to defend his grove. Can't do that if the Gobbo children call for the entire fortress to come down on you.

[[TG] zac]

LevelSix_SYSTEM の投稿を引用：

cire87 の投稿を引用：

if you ensnare the 2 goblin kids messing with halsin he himself will kill them when he get out

Thats cause tree huggin hippy druids are pure evil lol they are the only ones going round killin kids in BG3 thus far

Shadow druids are evil ya.

Haslin however not so much, those "kids" already showed they were complete psychopaths and had killed people before.

[Grimm Carrolls]

TG zac の投稿を引用：

Hazarddex の投稿を引用：

Chaotic evil. Don't forget you can play as good goblins in dnd.

The goblins were torturing a bear and bragging how they killed the guy. (kind of behavior child Psychopaths enjoy before becoming serial killers)

Just because you can play as one doesn't mean they are all good.

The Gobbo children didn't kill him at all. And they were torturing a bear at the behest of their elder.
Would you have killed human children if you saw them doing that, btw?

[Wyverns Impermanence]

Personally i would kill them all just to get rid of any witnesses, plus you can pin the deed on someone else if need be. "Oh i saw this lumberjack dude just hacking away those poor innocent children Laezel and I couldnt see such injustice so we slaughtered him, but he had help from these peasant looking people who jumped us we barely survived".

[cire87]

Dargsy Wargon の投稿を引用：

TG zac の投稿を引用：

The goblins were torturing a bear & poking the dead body of someone who tried to protect themselves from them.

They thought the bears suffering was amusing.

Nobody is saying you need to take please in ridding the world of them but by doing so you are ridding the world of psychopaths who will likely kill allot of innocent people down the road.

I've seen children in real life treat an animal in such a way. Should I have killed them?

maybe a slap to the back of the head or a spanking if your a parent

[LevelSix_SYSTEM]

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Diedkid の投稿を引用：

No, that lawful stupid, not lawful good. Lawful good characters are people follow the law to its most positive and moral outcome, not those who just randomly kills kid because their criminals.

The goblins were torturing a bear & poking the dead body of someone who tried to protect themselves from them.

They thought the bears suffering was amusing.

Nobody is saying you need to take please in ridding the world of them but by doing so you are ridding the world of psychopaths who will likely kill allot of innocent people down the road.

And on that day when they take an innocent's life then they deserve to die
Being sadistic isnt a crime nor is being full-on psychopath and humans are just as susceptible of being either...
Didnt you all watch Minority Report? You dont bloody kill someone cause they 'may' commit a "future crime"....

[[TG] zac]

Dargsy Wargon の投稿を引用：

TG zac の投稿を引用：

The goblins were torturing a bear & poking the dead body of someone who tried to protect themselves from them.

They thought the bears suffering was amusing.

Nobody is saying you need to take please in ridding the world of them but by doing so you are ridding the world of psychopaths who will likely kill allot of innocent people down the road.

I've seen children in real life treat an animal in such a way. Should I have killed them?

You should have reported them to the cops or child protective services.

That kind of behavior comes about because of severe abuse or serious abnormalities in hormone or brain chemistry.
If not treated it can lead to people who become serious criminals or serial killers.

[NixAhmose]

TG zac の投稿を引用：

The goblins were torturing a bear & poking the dead body of someone who tried to protect themselves from them.

They thought the bears suffering was amusing.

Nobody is saying you need to take please in ridding the world of them but by doing so you are ridding the world of psychopaths who will likely kill allot of innocent people down the road.

1) They were torturing a bear that had attacked the camp.

2) Said corpse they were defiling was the guy who killed their parents

3) They're kids. Do we murder kids in real life just because their parents tried teaching them to become psychopaths? No, we try to rehibilitate them because as kids they don't know any better. Hence why no lawful good character would ever go out of their way to kill goblin kids.

[[TG] zac]

LevelSix_SYSTEM の投稿を引用：

TG zac の投稿を引用：

The goblins were torturing a bear & poking the dead body of someone who tried to protect themselves from them.

They thought the bears suffering was amusing.

Nobody is saying you need to take please in ridding the world of them but by doing so you are ridding the world of psychopaths who will likely kill allot of innocent people down the road.

And on that day when they take an innocent's life then they deserve to die
Being sadistic isnt a crime nor is being full-on psychopath and humans are just as susceptible of being either...
Didnt you all watch Minority Report? You dont bloody kill someone cause they 'may' commit a "future crime"....

The goblin children had already committed multiple crimes including murder.
The guy they killed was simply defending his own home, the fact they killed him makes it murder.

Doesn't matter that he killed their parents because their parents had come into his home and tried to kill him.

As for real life situations regarding psychopathic behavior and torture of animals, no you shouldn't kill them. You should however report said behavior so said person can get some psychiatric treatment.

[cire87]

Diedkid の投稿を引用：

TG zac の投稿を引用：

The goblins were torturing a bear & poking the dead body of someone who tried to protect themselves from them.

They thought the bears suffering was amusing.

Nobody is saying you need to take please in ridding the world of them but by doing so you are ridding the world of psychopaths who will likely kill allot of innocent people down the road.

1) They were torturing a bear that had attacked the camp.

2) Said corpse they were defiling was the guy who killed their parents

3) They're kids. Do we murder kids in real life just because their parents tried teaching them to become psychopaths? No, we try to rehibilitate them because as kids they don't know any better. Hence why no lawful good character would ever go out of their way to kill goblin kids.

Does this version of D&D have juvie

[LevelSix_SYSTEM]

Smo Queed の投稿を引用：

cire87 の投稿を引用：

its not his fault its just default AI but the lady in the grove shes dipping deep into evil

Debatable. Druids believe in balance, and Halsim is actively trying to defend his grove. Can't do that if the Gobbo children call for the entire fortress to come down on you.

thats why you knock em out with NON-lethal damage... you guys 'do' realize thats already implemented as a 'thing' right? 😅

Ive only now gotten to the druid grove so not sure if you can actually tie up mobs yet with rope but the non-lethal dmg is definitely in game

[NixAhmose]

Mr Fred の投稿を引用：

Good thing the book I cited is based on 5e then... Night of the hunter page 51 of the companion codex trilogy.

"They are not people," she said softly. "They are monsters. This is not true of the other races, not even of the tieflings, who claim demonic ancestry, for they unlike goblinkin, have free will and reason in matters of conscience. True and full goblinkin do not, I say; Mielikki says."

There is then a comparison that you would be safer to raise a lion cub than baby goblin.

So you're taking what a character in a story says rather than the official 5e books that literally describe how the world and races work say? Literally the makers of 5e have come out and said that monster races are not inherently evil/

[cire87]

TG zac の投稿を引用：

LevelSix_SYSTEM の投稿を引用：

And on that day when they take an innocent's life then they deserve to die
Being sadistic isnt a crime nor is being full-on psychopath and humans are just as susceptible of being either...
Didnt you all watch Minority Report? You dont bloody kill someone cause they 'may' commit a "future crime"....

The goblin children had already committed multiple crimes including murder.
The guy they killed was simply defending his own home, the fact they killed him makes it murder.

Doesn't matter that he killed their parents because their parents had come into his home and tried to kill him.

As for real life situations regarding psychopathic behavior and torture of animals, no you shouldn't kill them. You should however report said behavior so said person can get some psychiatric treatment.

does D&D have a psychiatric treatment center