Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Sketch Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:20am
Mud Mephit's Broken Summoning
After loading a couple times, as it stands with unlimited Ancient summons; basically just ignore everything and nuke down the Ancient Mephit's as fast as possible. I was able to do it with only just a few young mephit's being summoned, but I crit a bunch on my opening salvo's.

Personally, I think the Ancient's are bugged with not only the unlimited summons (opposed to the 1/day in the book) but the fact they can perform a new summon every turn.


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TLDR

Chain summons are extremely broken. Currently in the middle of a fight that has so far INCLUDED over 25 mephit's (started with 6).

Edit: (Ancient*) mephit's appear to have UNLIMITED number of summons with 100% success.

lolwtf
Last edited by Sketch; Oct 22, 2020 @ 12:11pm
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Mr. Darcion Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:23am 
Not everyone. Only the Ancient versions. Deal with them first and your golden... Thou this could be exploited as an infinite XP-farm...
Nordil(Hun) Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Mr. Darcion:
Not everyone. Only the Ancient versions. Deal with them first and your golden... Thou this could be exploited as an infinite XP-farm...

Nope. Already checked:)
Young ones/summoned ones do not give you ANY xp. Not even one.
Spider Matriarchs spiderlings give you 1 xp though!
And 5 exp for the Matriarch and 5 for any solo phase spider. (Joke!)
Last edited by Nordil(Hun); Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:25am
Sketch Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Mr. Darcion:
Not everyone. Only the Ancient versions. Deal with them first and your golden... Thou this could be exploited as an infinite XP-farm...

Sorry, not sure I follow what you were implying about the ancients? As far as I could tell, each and every mephit was summoning mephits, including the newly summoned mephits.
Diesel Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:29am 
When I fought them only the ancients were able to summon more iIrc.
Sketch Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Diesel:
When I fought them only the ancients were able to summon more iIrc.

Ah.

I'll be re-loading this fight a bunch and see if maybe this is just an oddity then.
Diesel Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:36am 
Even if that doesn´t work out you can stilll exterminate them quite efficently in large numbers by blasting them with burning hands, shatter or thunderwave.
Dwarfy2k Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:36am 
I just did this fight earlier and can confirm on the unlimited summons, it was really annoying
Nordil(Hun) Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Diesel:
When I fought them only the ancients were able to summon more iIrc.

Exactly.

The ancient mud mephits, summon young mud mephits. Young mud mephits just hurl mud balls at you. And they do not give any XP neither.

But the Ancient Mud Mephits can do that Indefinitely. The ancient mud mephits, well any of which thinks you are in their range, will summon a young mephit. EVERY FRIGGIN TURN! (Their range seems to be around 25-30 meters)

So yes what you described can happen that they spawn about 25 or so young ones. You need to distance yourself a bit then kill the young ones, and then if you are lucky you can kill 1-2 of the ancient ones before the others start to summon again.
It took me a reload(due to damn lot of mephits) and thereafter an hour to kill them. Was not in danger, but the infinity spawn, can mess you up depending on what level you get there. And what tactic you use.
Last edited by Nordil(Hun); Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:38am
Sketch Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):
Originally posted by Diesel:
When I fought them only the ancients were able to summon more iIrc.

Exactly.

The ancient mud mephits, summon young mud mephits. Young mud mephits just hurl mud balls at you. And they do not give any XP neither.

But the Ancient Mud Mephits can do that Indefinitely. The ancient mud mephits, well any of which thinks you are in their range, will summon a young mephit. EVERY FRIGGIN TURN! (Their range seems to be around 25-30 meters)

So yes what you described can happen that they spawn about 25 or so young ones. You need to distance yourself a bit then kill the young ones, and then if you are lucky you can kill 1-2 of the ancient ones before the others start to summon again.
It took me a reload(due to damn lot of mephits) and thereafter an hour to kill them. Was not in danger, but the infinity spawn, can mess you up depending on what level you get there. And what tactic you use.


OK yeah. My initial experience I was a bit confused as I can now confirm that ONLY Ancients do the summoning, and YES it is an every turn option for them as opposed to the 1/Day in the book.

I want to say this is a bug and not a feature for the Ancients? Either way, it makes this fight extremely annoying and meh.
Nordil(Hun) Oct 22, 2020 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Sketch:
Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

Exactly.

The ancient mud mephits, summon young mud mephits. Young mud mephits just hurl mud balls at you. And they do not give any XP neither.

But the Ancient Mud Mephits can do that Indefinitely. The ancient mud mephits, well any of which thinks you are in their range, will summon a young mephit. EVERY FRIGGIN TURN! (Their range seems to be around 25-30 meters)

So yes what you described can happen that they spawn about 25 or so young ones. You need to distance yourself a bit then kill the young ones, and then if you are lucky you can kill 1-2 of the ancient ones before the others start to summon again.
It took me a reload(due to damn lot of mephits) and thereafter an hour to kill them. Was not in danger, but the infinity spawn, can mess you up depending on what level you get there. And what tactic you use.


OK yeah. My initial experience I was a bit confused as I can now confirm that ONLY Ancients do the summoning, and YES it is an every turn option for them as opposed to the 1/Day in the book.

I want to say this is a bug and not a feature for the Ancients? Either way, it makes this fight extremely annoying and meh.

Yeah. Especially since their is no reward for the young ones. No items, no xp no nothing. But you can spend your whole night killing mephits:)
At least the phase spiderlings give 1 xp. Though i would say they are stronger than the young mud mephits too.
Wildwanderer Oct 26, 2020 @ 6:59pm 
The Young Mephit's have unlimited summons too. I killed all the Ancients and the leftover Youngs are summoning more Youngs. AND they are getting ranged opportunity attacks from 60 feet away.
Last edited by Wildwanderer; Oct 26, 2020 @ 7:02pm
cire87 Oct 26, 2020 @ 7:14pm 
Only ancient summon and if you enter through the correct path you can nuke them all down before they get a chance to summon
Nox Oct 26, 2020 @ 7:19pm 
How the hell did you reach 25 mephits? I saw 1 summon and I rushed to damage the summoners with 3 characters while Lae'zel was taking care of defending the pack from the summons. It's not that they were really dangerous more like flies that needed a bit of a sword in the head.

Originally posted by Wildwanderer:
The Young Mephit's have unlimited summons too. I killed all the Ancients and the leftover Youngs are summoning more Youngs.

That is false otherwise your game is bugged.
Last edited by Nox; Oct 26, 2020 @ 7:20pm
cire87 Oct 26, 2020 @ 7:23pm 
young mepthis cant summon if they are in your game then its an EA bug and report it
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