Is my laptop just crap now

[Mr. Doctor]

Two years ago I bought a lenovo yoga laptop (probably the best mainstream laptop you could buy at the time). Anyways don't buy lenevo, the screen went to crap and won't stop flickering, they have a class action lawsuit over it but that's a different story.

But just wondering if anyone is having terrible performance even on the lower settings. I've resorted to having resolution minimized to a window that is like half the size of my screen and it's still choppy. This computer cost me almost $2,000 dollars in 2018, I thought I'd never have to buy one for gaming for at least another two years.

[....]

Laptops arent future-proof. They are way worse than normal PCs and they will be outdated rather fast if you want to play games. They use different or underclocked hardware because of heat, power consumption and space-issues.

Dont ever buy a gaming laptop - except when you really need the mobilty and cant just buy both (cheap laptop for work + gaming pc). A modern high-end GPU is actually almost bigger than a small laptop.

Also - i doubt a lenovo yoga costs 2k. Anyhow as far as i know Yoga is the "multimedia/style" product - its not a gaming notebook - or was that different 2 years ago?

Does your laptop even have a dedicated GPU?

If you want any real answer you have to at least post the laptop model - or even better the specs and model. If you have the ThinkPad X1 Yoga - thats a nice laptop but not suited for gaming at all.

If you ever buy a notebook for gaming again - which you shouldnt - the most important thing is a dedicated GPU (and a good one).

[Arran Chace]

Accourding to what i find on that Laptop, its a I5 4 core 2.4GhZ mobile CPU with a buildin GPU that used shared memory, with a 65W TDH build of low spec hardware due not beeing able to have sufficient thermal cooling due its compact size, that cost currently less that 800 euro.

Sorry dude, you have been utterly ripped off when purchasing that laptop for 2000 dollar, and have bought a pretty basic budget laptop that is near incapable of running a game in resonbly good specs..

So to answer your question, and prolly not what you want to hear, Yes you Laptop is Crap, and you payed WAAAAAAY to much for it, if you really spend 2000 dollar on it.
Next time do you homework, and dont trust the salesman on his blue eyes, in fact assume he knows nothing of computers or their intented usage, and only is out to make that sale..

[Gregorovitch]

It depends on the specs of the laptop. But generally you can never even approach the performance of a tower case build with a laptop. The whacking great slabs of metal we install in our machines for GPUs, not to mention the cooling systems etc, these days are not that big just for show.

You could easily build yourself a monster PC based around a RTX3800 (or the new AMD flagship, I haven't kept up with whether that's a real runner yet) with 32BG RAM, a top of the range CPU and two 1TB M2e SSDs for about $2000. $2500 if you throw in a high end monitor which kinda makes sense if you're forking out that much on the machine, what's on your screen IS the game at the end of the day, and having forked out for a high end screen myself I can attest that once you've had one you'll never even consider anything less.

You won't get a laptop that gets even remotely near that performance for even double the money. Plus a proper PC is easy to upgrade which a laptop is not. Your laptop will do fine for years for everything other than gaming but if you're not getting what you need out of it for gaming I'd raid the piggy bank and bite the bullet. I seriously doubt you'd regret it.

[AncientsLegacy]

Sorry buddy, your laptop was never even close to being the best mainstream laptop. Lenovo is terrible, especially for gaming because they don't have good cooling. Other laptops that are twice the age of a lenovo work better.

[DrHitman27]

Replace screen cable then, they break.
Game setting have low impact on fps, you can get 2-3x more fps in doom eternal.

Originally posted by .:

Also - i doubt a lenovo yoga costs 2k.

There are some models with 2048 Gb ssd. 99% of games will run on this thing, only 1% games that lag on any pc will not.

[talemore]

Laptop is like console

[Mr. Doctor]

Originally posted by .:

Laptops arent future-proof. They are way worse than normal PCs and they will be outdated rather fast if you want to play games. They use different or underclocked hardware because of heat, power consumption and space-issues.

Dont ever buy a gaming laptop - except when you really need the mobilty and cant just buy both (cheap laptop for work + gaming pc). A modern high-end GPU is actually almost bigger than a small laptop.

Also - i doubt a lenovo yoga costs 2k. Anyhow as far as i know Yoga is the "multimedia/style" product - its not a gaming notebook - or was that different 2 years ago?

Does your laptop even have a dedicated GPU?

If you want any real answer you have to at least post the laptop model - or even better the specs and model. If you have the ThinkPad X1 Yoga - thats a nice laptop but not suited for gaming at all.

If you ever buy a notebook for gaming again - which you shouldnt - the most important thing is a dedicated GPU (and a good one).

More like 1.5K, I don't remember.

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version 10.0.18363 Build 18363
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-0JRGRBO
System Manufacturer LENOVO
System Model 80X7
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU LENOVO_MT_80X7_BU_idea_FM_YOGA 720-15IKB
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2801 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date LENOVO 4MCN33WW(V2.05), 7/19/2018
SMBIOS Version 3.0
Embedded Controller Version 2.33
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer LENOVO
BaseBoard Product LNVNB161216
BaseBoard Version SDK0J40709 WIN
Platform Role Mobile
Secure Boot State On
PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.752"
User Name DESKTOP-0JRGRBO\pc-user
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 15.8 GB
Available Physical Memory 7.74 GB
Total Virtual Memory 20.4 GB
Available Virtual Memory 3.88 GB
Page File Space 4.56 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Elevation Required to View
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

[Gamer 41]

all laptops are trash when it comes to gaming.

[zacharyb]

Originally posted by Mr. Doctor:

Originally posted by .:

Laptops arent future-proof. They are way worse than normal PCs and they will be outdated rather fast if you want to play games. They use different or underclocked hardware because of heat, power consumption and space-issues.

Dont ever buy a gaming laptop - except when you really need the mobilty and cant just buy both (cheap laptop for work + gaming pc). A modern high-end GPU is actually almost bigger than a small laptop.

Also - i doubt a lenovo yoga costs 2k. Anyhow as far as i know Yoga is the "multimedia/style" product - its not a gaming notebook - or was that different 2 years ago?

Does your laptop even have a dedicated GPU?

If you want any real answer you have to at least post the laptop model - or even better the specs and model. If you have the ThinkPad X1 Yoga - thats a nice laptop but not suited for gaming at all.

If you ever buy a notebook for gaming again - which you shouldnt - the most important thing is a dedicated GPU (and a good one).

More like 1.5K, I don't remember.

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version 10.0.18363 Build 18363
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-0JRGRBO
System Manufacturer LENOVO
System Model 80X7
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU LENOVO_MT_80X7_BU_idea_FM_YOGA 720-15IKB
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2801 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date LENOVO 4MCN33WW(V2.05), 7/19/2018
SMBIOS Version 3.0
Embedded Controller Version 2.33
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer LENOVO
BaseBoard Product LNVNB161216
BaseBoard Version SDK0J40709 WIN
Platform Role Mobile
Secure Boot State On
PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.752"
User Name DESKTOP-0JRGRBO\pc-user
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 15.8 GB
Available Physical Memory 7.74 GB
Total Virtual Memory 20.4 GB
Available Virtual Memory 3.88 GB
Page File Space 4.56 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Elevation Required to View
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

Well I don't see a graphics card there, and when I looked up your model there was some with no discrete graphics card and another with a GTX 1050 which is way below the minimum GPU.

That laptop was not a gaming laptop in the first place either, it's a laptop that can play older or non graphically demanding games, and even then it might have troubles.

[alanc9]

It's a decent laptop, but nothing with integrated graphics counts as a gaming rig.

[Smerk]

Originally posted by zacharyb:

Originally posted by Mr. Doctor:

More like 1.5K, I don't remember.

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version 10.0.18363 Build 18363
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-0JRGRBO
System Manufacturer LENOVO
System Model 80X7
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU LENOVO_MT_80X7_BU_idea_FM_YOGA 720-15IKB
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2801 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date LENOVO 4MCN33WW(V2.05), 7/19/2018
SMBIOS Version 3.0
Embedded Controller Version 2.33
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer LENOVO
BaseBoard Product LNVNB161216
BaseBoard Version SDK0J40709 WIN
Platform Role Mobile
Secure Boot State On
PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.752"
User Name DESKTOP-0JRGRBO\pc-user
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 15.8 GB
Available Physical Memory 7.74 GB
Total Virtual Memory 20.4 GB
Available Virtual Memory 3.88 GB
Page File Space 4.56 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Elevation Required to View
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

Well I don't see a graphics card there, and when I looked up your model there was some with no discrete graphics card and another with a GTX 1050 which is way below the minimum GPU.

That laptop was not a gaming laptop in the first place either, it's a laptop that can play older or non graphically demanding games, and even then it might have troubles.

The minimum GPU is a 780 so the 1050 would be ok, presuming it has one.

[dannyj147]

780 is far more powerful than 1050. https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050/2164vs3650

[~Draugkir~]

Originally posted by Mr. Doctor:

Two years ago I bought a lenovo yoga laptop (probably the best mainstream laptop you could buy at the time). Anyways don't buy lenevo, the screen went to crap and won't stop flickering, they have a class action lawsuit over it but that's a different story.

Pretty sure that if it was a lenovo it was not the best anything.
:)

More like the opposite.

[alanc9]

Desktop gaming can be done on the cheap. A few years back I needed to replace my rig when it blew up trying to run Dragon Age Inquisition. I found a used Lenovo with a i7-3770 for $180 (they may have undercharged me). 4 GB more RAM and a 750TI and I was good to go for <$300.

That ran everything OK until recently, even BG3, although load times were atrocious.. Finally bit the bullet this week and upgraded -- new PSU, SSD, more RAM, and a 5500.

Dunno about laptops , but Lenovo desktops are OK. Cheap-ass and nonstandard power supplies are an issue, though.

[Mr. Doctor]

Originally posted by dannyj147:

780 is far more powerful than 1050. https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050/2164vs3650

Yeah, it's a GTX 1050.

Operating System: Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
DirectX version: 12.0
GPU processor: GeForce GTX 1050
Driver version: 452.06
Driver Type: Standard
Direct3D API version: 12
Direct3D feature level: 12_1
CUDA Cores: 640
Core clock: 1354 MHz
Memory data rate: 7.01 Gbps
Memory interface: 128-bit
Memory bandwidth: 112.13 GB/s
Total available graphics memory: 10151 MB
Dedicated video memory: 2048 MB GDDR5
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 8103 MB
Video BIOS version: 86.07.3C.00.3B
IRQ: Not used
Bus: PCI Express x8 Gen3
Device Id: 10DE 1C8D 39CB17AA
Part Number: 2904 0001