A silly question. How could you guys keep not feeling guilty when doing evil playthrough？

[KDA Seraphine]

I wanted to try evil character in my second playthrough.
I know it is just a game, but I felt so bad when I decided to betray Zevlor and those Tieflings.
I killed Zevlor by pushing him off the gate, he screamed and died helpless.
I soon regretted it. I mean, how could I kill someone who count on me and trust me as friend？
I took someone’s hope and life just for having a romance with Minthara.
I shouldn't have done this.

[Hex]

Just like in real life, it becomes easier over time.

[Rez Elwin]

Learn to put yourself in the mindset of the character you're playing. It's easier to RP if you write a backstory as well.

My main OC Rez Elwin has been developed by me for over about 15 years, I am writing stories about him and a buddy of mine is finishing up a novel with him in it. I am intimately familiar with him as a character and know exactly what decisions he would make at any given time.

You obviously don't need to go that far but anything that can help you connect with a character you create will help put yourself in the mindset required to play them without regret or guilt.

[Hades]

Originally posted by 高级伐木技术:

I wanted to try evil character in my second playthrough.
I know it is just a game, but I felt so bad when I decided to betray Zevlor and those Tieflings.

You where not playing evil as much as chaotic is my say .betrayal is more chaotic that is evil.
There a lot more reward for a natural evil in getting the tieflings and druids to make peace and kill the 3 goblins leaders .A lawful evil will not betray easy

[Oubley]

like evil how, kicking them out of the camping or attacking them with goblins? Kicking them out of camp don't see as evil, there was a bunch of guys starting fights, tieflings thieving, and I believe it was a tiefling who even killed a prisoner of war, plus it isn't their land of sorts, so like doesn't seem like they are providing goods reasons to be able to stay.

in terms of goblin attack and joining that, not sure what the goblin reason is, maybe it really isn't an "evil" reason. I don't recall anyone actually saying why there was hostility. Wasn't the main druid out with some humans trying to take something from a goblin camp?

Like from that standpoint that sort of not the Goblins starting things; what were the other reasons?

Or as other said you get used to it or rationalize things.

[UnholyDentist]

For the matter of roleplay, and for the same reason I don't feel guilty when I shoot somebody in FPS games, it's just the core feature of the game, and has nothing to do with reality. If you utterly feel wrong playing evil in an RPG then just don't do it. The main function of any games is entertainment, so do what you enjoy.

[Solomon Kane]

Not sure what you are talking about, as soon I saw those Tieflings, then the druids, I felt bored, once again, the boring goody two shoes approach, then I found the prisoner and was offered a deal, and I was excited, and yes, I felt absolute joy as me and my goblin buddies, put every man, woman and child in that grove to the sword, finally another rare game, were there is a legit evil route to play

[Hex]

Originally posted by Solomon Kane:

Not sure what you are talking about, as soon I saw those Tieflings, then the druids, I felt bored, once again, the boring goody two shoes approach, then I found the prisoner and was offered a deal, and I was excited, and yes, I felt absolute joy as me and my goblin buddies, put every man, woman and child in that grove to the sword, finally another rare game, were there is a legit evil route to play

Kingmaker pissed me off SO much. Sure, you can play, and lose all your companions, have your kingdom crumble and basically fail the game.

I've never played an RPG that railroaded you into Neutral Good THAT hard.

[Oubley]

from what I read "evil" is a little weird in d&d. Like it doesn't always mean like you're "bad" but you look out for yourself, or don't adhere to laws, or take you own welfare and freedom over that of a group, a traditional "evil" label seems a little strong for some of that stuff.

[Martin]

Originally posted by 高级伐木技术:

I wanted to try evil character in my second playthrough.
I know it is just a game, but I felt so bad when I decided to betray Zevlor and those Tieflings.

I killed a goblin kid.. made me laugh.

It's funny really, in these games I don't pickpocket for example.. unless i'm messing around with my mates online. But the main reason I don't do that, is because I've been pick pocketed..

So yeh for the most part, where it's just sprites or ai or npcs etc.. doesn't bother me. There's no real attachment, but in online games it's different. You are who you appear to be and your actions matter.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Oubley:

from what I read "evil" is a little weird in d&d. Like it doesn't always mean like you're "bad" but you look out for yourself, or don't adhere to laws, or take you own welfare and freedom over that of a group, a traditional "evil" label seems a little strong for some of that stuff.

It's cruelty, that's the mark of evil. Cruelty, unprovoked violence and selfishness. Not adhering to laws is chaotic, not evil.

[Beanybomber]

Originally posted by UnholyDentist:

For the matter of roleplay, and for the same reason I don't feel guilty when I shoot somebody in FPS games, it's just the core feature of the game, and has nothing to do with reality. If you utterly feel wrong playing evil in an RPG then just don't do it. The main function of any games is entertainment, so do what you enjoy.

Usually in fps you dont really interact with the characters your shooting and gain the moral dilema, and with this is more how can you do a genocide run like undertale, id say the best way is to back away from the emersion and look at it as a writer perspective, look at this character you saved and how happy they are, and how you like them during the conflict, now how do they react in more dire or fatal situation, how do the villains act, rather you must distance yourself from it and have the thought of "in another playthrough my REAL playthrough i shall save them all" since you are clearly doing the evil stuff since its recommended to explore the option in the beta
anytime you play the villain its either to slap the goodguy characters you dont like or too see how these characters you like respond when you make their lifes a living hell, again undertale does it fine,

[zero]

easy: its not real

[Pélagie]

I tried to play evil but I stopped as soon as I saw I could poke a wounded bird to death or torture a prisoner just for the fun of it. I know it's not real but I don't enjoy this, and the point of a video game is to enjoy ourselves.
I love thriller and horror movies, but in video games it's different: you're not passive, the main character and the cruelty is your own choice. It makes me inconfortable.

I know some people are abble to distance themselves and enjoy impersonating an evil character, but I can't. i tried, but I can't^^

[Hex]

Originally posted by Pélagie:

I tried to play evil but I stopped as soon as I saw I could poke a wounded bird to death or torture a prisoner just for the fun of it. I know it's not real but I don't enjoy this, and the point of a video game is to enjoy ourselves.
I love thriller and horror movies, but in video games it's different: you're not passive, the main character and the cruelty is your own choice. It makes me inconfortable.

Imagine having a choice. At least this game doesn't railroad you into good like some other games.

[Pélagie]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by Pélagie:

I tried to play evil but I stopped as soon as I saw I could poke a wounded bird to death or torture a prisoner just for the fun of it. I know it's not real but I don't enjoy this, and the point of a video game is to enjoy ourselves.
I love thriller and horror movies, but in video games it's different: you're not passive, the main character and the cruelty is your own choice. It makes me inconfortable.

Imagine having a choice. At least this game doesn't railroad you into good like some other games.

I agree. It's very important to have the choice, and I'm happy the game gives you the opportunity to play differently. I'm happy the option to play evil exists. It's just that I don't enjoy my playthrough when I tried to be a twisted bastard^^