Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Malus Nov 10, 2020 @ 7:17pm
Why are dogs outlawed?
Why no dogs allowed in Baldurs Gate? Cats are okay but not dogs? I will burn that city down!


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sick duck Nov 10, 2020 @ 8:04pm 
Dogs kill people.
Soft Lockpick Nov 10, 2020 @ 8:09pm 
So do cats?

And lets not get into comparing the most aggressive powerful dogs to kittens shall we? I see your kitten and raise you a froofy little dog that gets tortured by having to wear sweaters.
Last edited by Soft Lockpick; Nov 10, 2020 @ 8:11pm
Dragon Master Nov 10, 2020 @ 8:14pm 
Originally posted by Malus:
Why no dogs allowed in Baldurs Gate? Cats are okay but not dogs? I will burn that city down!

I'm sure that they were just chatting, those two tieflings. I doubt it's actual lore.
Malus Nov 11, 2020 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by Dragon Master:
Originally posted by Malus:
Why no dogs allowed in Baldurs Gate? Cats are okay but not dogs? I will burn that city down!

I'm sure that they were just chatting, those two tieflings. I doubt it's actual lore.

I have never had a Tiefling lie to me before
Dragon Master Nov 11, 2020 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Malus:
Originally posted by Dragon Master:

I'm sure that they were just chatting, those two tieflings. I doubt it's actual lore.

I have never had a Tiefling lie to me before

Have they ever been right 100% of the time before?
Brady4444 Nov 11, 2020 @ 6:21pm 
Wait a minute. There's no dogs allowed in the city? That might be interesting if we take Scratch with us to Baldur's Gate. For example, if we 'camp' in the inn it might get us in trouble.
Malus Nov 11, 2020 @ 6:27pm 
Animals
While cats were abundantly found throughout the city, as they were used to eliminate vermin from cargo ships, dogs were not a common sight by any stretch. Livestock, such as horses, cows, goats and like, were prohibited from the city proper,[95] relegated to the paddocks and pens of the Outer City.[96]

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Baldur%27s_Gate

doesnt say they are flat out outlawed. But for some reason not many. Wonder if something in the city eats them?
xycotta Nov 11, 2020 @ 7:19pm 
Gnolls considered them slavery so they outlawed owning dogs
Boink Nov 12, 2020 @ 3:44am 
Originally posted by Malus:
Why no dogs allowed in Baldurs Gate? Cats are okay but not dogs? I will burn that city down!


There is a dog, you can make it a pet / follower for your camp if you find it and pass some checks.

As for why there's no dogs in the druid's circle? The tieflings ate them all
seamsungg Nov 12, 2020 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by Malus:
Animals
While cats were abundantly found throughout the city, as they were used to eliminate vermin from cargo ships, dogs were not a common sight by any stretch. Livestock, such as horses, cows, goats and like, were prohibited from the city proper,[95] relegated to the paddocks and pens of the Outer City.[96]

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Baldur%27s_Gate

doesnt say they are flat out outlawed. But for some reason not many. Wonder if something in the city eats them?
Well that clearly means that they only prohibit animals that are of use to them. Cats kill "vermin" mice , rats... Farm animals create produce.. Dogs can do nothing but be protectors and they already have warriors for that
Malus Nov 12, 2020 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by Boink:
Originally posted by Malus:
Why no dogs allowed in Baldurs Gate? Cats are okay but not dogs? I will burn that city down!


There is a dog, you can make it a pet / follower for your camp if you find it and pass some checks.

As for why there's no dogs in the druid's circle? The tieflings ate them all

Talking about in the CITY of Baldurs Gate.

There is dialog where a girl wants a dog and the guy says they are not allowed in Baldurs Gate.

So she is going to get a orange cat.
xycotta Nov 12, 2020 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by xycotta:
Gnolls considered them slavery so they outlawed owning dogs

Since when do Gnolls have an aversion to slavery?


A joke on how species alignment has changed
Capt.Luke Nov 12, 2020 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Malus:
Animals
While cats were abundantly found throughout the city, as they were used to eliminate vermin from cargo ships, dogs were not a common sight by any stretch. Livestock, such as horses, cows, goats and like, were prohibited from the city proper,[95] relegated to the paddocks and pens of the Outer City.[96]

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Baldur%27s_Gate

doesnt say they are flat out outlawed. But for some reason not many. Wonder if something in the city eats them?
this text is from the Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast that cover the Realm year(s)
1366–1367 DR

bg3 even occur in 1492 ........... thing change in 150 years :P

here is the REAL unedited text :
"Baldur's Gate is otherwise a pleasant but unremarkable city to stroll about in. Cats are everywhere raised to keep down the shipborne vermin, but there's nary a dog to be seen. Livestock and mounts are kept outside the city in order to ensure maximum cleanliness."
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RealDealBreaker Nov 12, 2020 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by Malus:
Why no dogs allowed in Baldurs Gate? Cats are okay but not dogs? I will burn that city down!
First, dogs were not treated the same as our pets are these days. Dogs were seen as tools for guarding and/or hunting first and companionship a distant second. In a city, you don't need hunting dogs (argument could be made for the smaller vermin hunting breeds like terriers) and that only leaves guarding. Guard dogs that are trained properly would be expensive to obtain and keep and thus would only be accessible to the upper merchant class and the nobility. If you have to choose between feeding your family of your dog, the dog is the first to go. Cats on the other
hand are quite independent and capable of surviving (and thriving) around humans without their help (see feral colonies). These cats (whether or not they have a home with people) help keep vermin under control which in turn protects grain supplies and helps prevent rapid spread of disease.
Second, wandering dogs can be very dangerous especially if they are starving and/or infected with rabies. Sure, cats can attack people, but they are more likely to run away and a 10 to 15 pound cat is way less of a risk than a 50+ pound dog.
Third, dogs are often loud and annoying in close confines like a densely packed city. You think the neighbour's dog barking at night is annoying in modern days? Well how about if you live in an uninsulated (or poorly insulated) wooden house that is touching your neighbour's house where that dog is barking? It's going to be that much louder. Cats rarely make any noise unless they are fighting or in heat (and dogs do both of those as well in addition to barking to say '♥♥♥♥ off mate' or 'Hi friend!').

That's really just off the top of my head, but it seems quite reasonable to me that a densely packed medieval(ish) city like Baldur's Gate would have a ban on dogs. They simply offer fewer benefits and more draw backs than cats do in a setting like that.
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