Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Numen Oct 12, 2020 @ 6:17am
Summoner?
I enjoy playing as summoners in Pathfinder Kingmaker, is that a thing here?
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Dragon Master Oct 12, 2020 @ 6:21am 
Well, it's technically the same game, just a different edition since Pathfinder is based off of D&D 3.5 and BG3 is based on D&D 5E.

It's still early access so there aren't a lot of summons you can do. The find familiar spell is a fun one. Warlocks get it at level 3, and can summon an imp or some other creature I can't remember the name of in addition to the spider, the cat, the raven, the frog, the crab or the cat. Rangers who specialize as beast masters also get it for free and don't need a spell slot whereas Wizards need a spell slot to summon a familiar.

We won't be getting third tier spells yet as Early Access doesn't go as far as level 5 yet, so there really isn't any summoning in a large scale yet.

Abjuration and Evocation are the two schools of magic that wizards can specialize in, as of this moment of me typing this, for early access.
Foolswalkin Oct 12, 2020 @ 6:26am 
Rangers have a starting option to learn Find Familiar. At level 3, if they become Beast Masters, they get a much stronger version of a summoning spell, usable for free but only out of combat. In particular, the Giant Spider summon is quite powerful at the low level cap we have.

Note also that you can only have 1 summon pet characters, so weirdly taking Find Familiar as your starting choice and Beast Master as your subclass is a bad idea.

But, no, the Pathfinder summoner class does not exist in DND. Many classes can summon and/or reanimate skeletons and undead, but no eidolons, sorry.
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Shale Oct 12, 2020 @ 6:34am 
Since the system is heavily based off 5e, I doubt we'll see a dedicated summoner class.
Closest you'll get are mages casting summoning spells, but they'll lack features to make them better than any others at it.
I guess a Wizard with the Necromancer subclass could fit this, depending on how they approach necromancy, assuming they do. But that'll still be a necromancer, not a summoner.
Larian might add a subclass in that is better at summons, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Numen Oct 12, 2020 @ 6:54am 
I'm not familiar with 5e so forgive me, but do Druids have a range of spells that summon animals?
In Pathfinder Kingmaker you have "Summon Nature's Ally I" all the way up to "Summon Nature's Ally IX"
Foogle Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:02am 
Fingers crossed they bring in School of Necromancer one day :D
malaire Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:07am 
Druid is not included yet in game.

Also I don't know if Druid gets summon spells at spell levels 1-2 in 5th edition. There is "Conjure Animals" at spell level 3 but Early Access doesn't go that far.
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Silverthorn Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:09am 
Pact of chain, the imp is VERY strong and versatile. invis, flight, poison. Hits for 4-7, ac 16, immunities. Works well, also can fly over give a flank when your rogue neeeds it. Oddly Both summons Level up, but nothing comes from it. Resummoning puts there lvl back to 1.
Jaycred Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:17am 
There will be more options as Larian adds content but for now your best bet would be to play ranger and pick the Beast Master subclass at level 3. The higher level conjuration spells that give you the cool stuff aren't available yet.
Numen Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:27am 
Thanks for the replies everyone
Tormar Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:32am 
Yeah in tabletop playing around with Conjuration isn't too great, not many features that make good use of it, but already with Pact of the Chain warlock we're seeing some changes there. May be hope for the future.
BigRockWall Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:35am 
DOS2, made by same devs, has summoner that you may very much enjoy. Just tossin it out there. Not gunna respond to comments about "this is BG3 forums they are different games", as yes i'm well aware.
Northern Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:39am 
DnD 5 overall has way less summons than 3.5/pathfinder so you'll enjioy game less.
malaire Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by Northern:
DnD 5 overall has way less summons than 3.5/pathfinder so you'll enjioy game less.
But is that because of spell leveling? For example single "Conjure Animals" spell covers several spells of different levels of earlier editions.
Northern Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:46am 
There's just no summon monster on every tier. In pathfinder1 every cleric or mage, even bard could be summoner. Much more option for pet, even level one like fey sorcerer.

In my opinion 5E did it right, pethfiner shapito was too much, but some ppl liked it. Maybe later mods will help
Greenfox21 Oct 12, 2020 @ 7:57am 
And there's summon items.

Like the "second marriage" which summons a zombie you can command in battle.
Or the lumps war horn, which sadly seems to only work once. And only if you didn't kill lump for that juicy crone he's wearing.
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