Multiple attacks per turn inquiry

[[NCE] Mykero]

So I've noticed some enemies, knolls in particular, have the ability to attack multiple times per turn, I've noticed up to 5 times so far. I'm curious, do enemies have like special skills or does charisma or something affect how many attacks they can get per turn. At first I thought it was a bug but I just fought a group of knolls and all three archers were throwing 4 attacks per turn each and it destroyed me. Also, a little side note, I've also noticed the turn order on screen doesnt match up with who attacks in which order. On occasion the enemy will get 2+ turns before I get mine, is that just an initiative thing or is it a bug?

[Goose]

It all depends on the monster's statblock. The Monster Manual doesnt say anything about them attacking multiple times in one action and also ignoring the loading property of bows (normally you can only make one attack per action with a ranged weapon without a feat), so that's most likely a mistake on Larian's part

[jmvbento]

Originally posted by Goose:

It all depends on the monster's statblock. The Monster Manual doesnt say anything about them attacking multiple times in one action and also ignoring the loading property of bows (normally you can only make one attack per action with a ranged weapon without a feat), so that's most likely a mistake on Larian's part

Bows don't have the loading property, you're thinking of crossbows. They have the ammunition property.

[[NCE] Mykero]

Ranged monsters are the only ones I've noticed to attack more than twice, spiders for instance I've noticed will get two attack moves

[Gandalf Balboa]

Is it possible at all for us to have two attacks or two actions per turn? I've seen lvl 4 halflings shooting me twice in a turn with a bow. I surely can't do that.

[Bloodonmoon]

Originally posted by Gandalf Balboa:

Is it possible at all for us to have two attacks or two actions per turn? I've seen lvl 4 halflings shooting me twice in a turn with a bow. I surely can't do that.

I know my assassin Astarion get another action point at 4 (if I'm not wrong). So combined with his bitting and double weapon, he can attack up to 3 times a turn (normal attack, second hand attack, and bitting when it's up).

So I guess it depends on classes also.

[dolby]

it's based on class - monster - level

[Bloodonmoon]

Originally posted by Gandalf Balboa:

Is it possible at all for us to have two attacks or two actions per turn? I've seen lvl 4 halflings shooting me twice in a turn with a bow. I surely can't do that.

My MC is ranger, and as subclasses you can chose a bonus attack on an ennemy that is not full life (it launches automatically), or attacking two other ennemis near your main target (not sure exactly how it worked, but it was : bonus attack on high hp monsters or horde killer). So I guess archers have this possibility even for ennemi archers. ^^

[Alealexi]

Originally posted by Bloodonmoon:

Originally posted by Gandalf Balboa:

Is it possible at all for us to have two attacks or two actions per turn? I've seen lvl 4 halflings shooting me twice in a turn with a bow. I surely can't do that.

I know my assassin Astarion get another action point at 4 (if I'm not wrong). So combined with his bitting and double weapon, he can attack up to 3 times a turn (normal attack, second hand attack, and bitting when it's up).

So I guess it depends on classes also.

No. Rogues don't get extra attack at all. Rogues can make a bonus action attack with off hand weapon. Also the assassin subclass is not even in the game yet so you must be talking about the thief subclass which in BG3 they do get an extra bonus action attack so yes up to three attacks. 1 main action attack & 2 bonus action attacks.

[Alealexi]

Originally posted by Gandalf Balboa:

Is it possible at all for us to have two attacks or two actions per turn? I've seen lvl 4 halflings shooting me twice in a turn with a bow. I surely can't do that.

Fighter, Rangers, Barbarians, & Paladins get extra attack at level 5 which is not available yet.

[Bloodonmoon]

Originally posted by Alealexi:

No. Rogues don't get extra attack at all. Rogues can make a bonus action attack with off hand weapon. Also the assassin subclass is not even in the game yet so you must be talking about the thief subclass which in BG3 they do get an extra bonus action attack so yes up to three attacks. 1 main action attack & 2 bonus action attacks.

Yes, must be thief then, I thought it was "assassin" but my game isn't in english, so I guessed wrong. ^^

[Ravioli]

Originally posted by Gandalf Balboa:

Is it possible at all for us to have two attacks or two actions per turn? I've seen lvl 4 halflings shooting me twice in a turn with a bow. I surely can't do that.

Certain classes can yes. In 5th edition. Or specifically for Baldurs gate 3, Fighters, rangers, paladins, (some clerics). Fighters can get multiple attacks as an action. They can also get action surge, which allows them to have an additional action for the turn per short/long rest.

If you were to be a lvl 5 fighter with multi attack. You attack twice, then action surge, then get to attack two more times.

BUT...

It only works with melee actions in order to attack 4 times. You can attack twice with a singular round if you do use ranged weapons using action surge. Also if you are dual wielding, you can use your bonus action to attack another time per round with your off-hand weapon but without your proficiency modifier unless you spec into it.

Hand crossbows aren't a thing in BG3 as of yet. Those only require a singular slot to use. If they add it in, you can fire once as an action and fire again as a bonus action as any class.

[Coldhands]

^The Fighter's multi-attack works with any attack you can make with the Attack action, ranged or melee.

[Brimcon]

Originally posted by B-Ravs:

If you were to be a lvl 5 fighter with multi attack. You attack twice, then action surge, then get to attack two more times.

BUT...

It only works with melee actions in order to attack 4 times. You can attack twice with a singular round if you do use ranged weapons using action surge. Also if you are dual wielding, you can use your bonus action to attack another time per round with your off-hand weapon but without your proficiency modifier unless you spec into it.

Incorrect, you can extra attack with ranged weapons as long as they do not have the loading property, or if you get a feat such as Crossbow Expert to ignore it.

[Ravioli]

Originally posted by Brimcon:

Originally posted by B-Ravs:

If you were to be a lvl 5 fighter with multi attack. You attack twice, then action surge, then get to attack two more times.

BUT...

It only works with melee actions in order to attack 4 times. You can attack twice with a singular round if you do use ranged weapons using action surge. Also if you are dual wielding, you can use your bonus action to attack another time per round with your off-hand weapon but without your proficiency modifier unless you spec into it.

Incorrect, you can extra attack with ranged weapons as long as they do not have the loading property, or if you get a feat such as Crossbow Expert to ignore it.

Yeah forgot to add that part in.