This game isn't grounded at all - RACE CHOICES

[Purple ♥♥♥ alien]

I'm gonna get huge hate for this, but I just find this so awkward. Dragonborn and demons are supposed to be the big bad guys of adventures.

People just want to be instantly "badass", but the fact is that story doesn't function if the players aren't conspicuously weak, and ordinary people at the start, and they need this big, bad, alien beings to face up to.

The whole concept of levels, of links to the human myth tradition, it's based on starting small and ordinary, and facing a racial other. That's what makes the villains awesome, their other-ness.

By making Dragonborn and Tieflings a core race in the PHB, and therefore more likely to be played, you make demon and dragon encounters less unique.

You have normalized everything, therefore nothing is strange

Just like bearded women and male voice sets on female characters. Shame how deep this cancer goes really.

[Rhoken The Dragon]

Well..beacause it's a RPG so everyone needs to have the chance to play a races that they like?

Or we want the same RPG with only Humans and Elfs?

[󠀡]

This is not YOUR campaign setting. It's THEIR campaign setting. You can choose to play it or not. You don't get to dictate the rules. If you want to do that make your own game.

[konokono]

Well I agree with TC here but it is what it is. I can still find enjoyment despite not agreeing with all the design choices

[AdahnGorion]

In act two you get to meet a Giff and then you will come back and say it is much to exotic for you........... Because you have to be angry about something right ???

!!! Bearded women are vital for roleplaying, how else would I be able to play my female shield dwarf????
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2255184014


Maybe you are just angry.

[BeardedShenanigans]

Oh boy you do NOT want to play 5e dnd if you feel this way. If you every feel like sinking your teeth into tabletop make sure to stick with AD&D/2e because since then unique races have been added and much beloved.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Do you really have a problem with tieflings and dragonborn or was this a thinly veiled complaint against female characters with male voices and beards?

[WuTaNiSt]

The latter I would imagine

[Jarvid]

Strangely enough I agree with the TC as well.
Never thought I might end as the stereotype of the old white man, but here I am.
I feel unhappy with the number of excotic (well even for D&D standards iMo) encounters right from the start.
Mindflyers,a vampire and githyankie and I'm still at the crash site, wow.
I feel l ike I'm one of the avengers and not an adventurer.

Well back to the point, I'd like to be it more common to feel more serious and adult.
A more common start not in a fancy flying ship, a normal start giving the story a chance to grow up tension and not stomp right into it.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by WuTaNiSt:

The latter I would imagine

No that can´t be right, he said he liked my female dwarf and was attracted to her beard

[Endus]

For one, Dragonborn aren't yet confirmed for this game, but if you read into them they're a pretty small and outcast sort of folk from what I read of in D&D lore.. they come from Toril after Abier-Toril split, and were enslaved by dragons on their homeworld. I find them interesting in the 5e universe as they are small in number, untrusting of dragons despite the existance of Bahamut and the chromatic (good) dragons, and without a place to truly call their home. I'm really hoping they get included but from what I've seen so far I'm doubting they'll make it to the game at all.

[Runic Tunic]

Why exactly does it need to be a "racial other?" If we're going by human myth traditions, there was otherworldly concepts on the good and bad side of things across history, and they were of humans and gods alike. Them being good or bad didn't take away from their otherness. And I'm pretty sure making Dragonborn and Tieflings playable doesn't take away from the otherness of the mindflayers or any other villains we face.

This is an RPG. Maybe I want to be the otherness or (albeit lesser) villain character. Maybe I want to play as something non-human to break the stereotype. Maybe I'm tired of playing a hairless ape all the **** time like in reality. That's the point. You get to roleplay. If your creativity is limited in such a way where playable non-humanoids remove the otherness of floating squid beings and the use of magic in everyday life, then you really shouldn't be playing anything DnD, or even fantasy, related.

[Endus]

Originally posted by BigAids:

I'm gonna get huge hate for this

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

huge hate

D&D at it's finest, honestly :D

[Rhoken The Dragon]

Originally posted by Endus:

For one, Dragonborn aren't yet confirmed for this game, but if you read into them they're a pretty small and outcast sort of folk from what I read of in D&D lore.. they come from Toril after Abier-Toril split, and were enslaved by dragons on their homeworld. I find them interesting in the 5e universe as they are small in number, untrusting of dragons despite the existance of Bahamut and the chromatic (good) dragons, and without a place to truly call their home. I'm really hoping they get included but from what I've seen so far I'm doubting they'll make it to the game at all.

From a datamining of the game files, they are confirmed to be in the game with also Half-Orc and Gnomes!
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/baldurs-gate-3-by-larian-studios-now-available-on-early-access.135311/page-83#post-6953596

Here is the source with also the name of the files who this guy have found this info!

[Diesel]

They announced, that all Phb races will be available at release.

[RJM]

I know a couple of other players who think Dragonborn, Tieflings and Warlocks are not true D&D because they were not a part of early editions. I can sympathise, but with modern D&D allowing you to play just about anything (Orcs, Goblins, Centaurs, Tortles, Tritons, etc) it really doesn't matter what old schoolers think of this. There's a new generation eager to play a bunch of cool combinations and if the DM says ok, let them have their fun.