The revive system

[catking2003]

Can someone who have played 5th edition tells me if this is how it actually works in pen and paper? That you fall unconscious after HP below 0 and your friends can just "help you up"? In older D&D games, I believe you stay unconscious until the end of combat and get back up or if the damage is bigger you die and have to be revived with spell (and if taken even larger damage, you will be obliterated with no chance for revival).

The "new" system reminds me of casual games like Gears Tactic or Wolfenstein New Blood where you can infinitely revive your teammates. It is NOT fun. It reduces the impact of death so when your characters die, you will not be like "oh ♥♥♥♥" but rather "meh what an annoyance". In some sense, it is also not fair to enemies cos it goes into this loop: enemy attacks -> kills 1 HP guy -> you revive 1 HP guy -> other two companions attack enemy -> rinse and repeat.

I used to criticize Larian for making BG3 too much like DOS but at this point I almost want them to fully copy the entire combat system of DOS rather than this dumbed down version of it.

[Pat]

when a PC is down to 0 hit points, they fall unconscious and start making death saving throws with a DC of 10, after 3 saves you stabilize at 0 HP then roll a 1d4 to determine how many hours it takes to regain 1 HP, but another PC can use a medicine check with a DC of 10 to instantly stabilize the downed PC, but if a downed PC is healed for even 1 point of health they instantly stabilize and regain consciousness.

[Northern]

Right now BG3 uses soften rules for many aspects. I guess it is because difficulty level not in and they dont want to go hard on people that not into dnd.

Help is action and you need medicine check.

[lucius90]

Directly from D&D rules:

Dropping to 0 Hit Points
When you drop to 0 Hit Points, you either die outright or fall Unconscious, as explained in the following sections.

Instant Death
Massive damage can kill you instantly. When damage reduces you to 0 Hit Points and there is damage remaining, you die if the remaining damage equals or exceeds your hit point maximum.

For example, a Cleric with a maximum of 12 Hit Points currently has 6 Hit Points. If she takes 18 damage from an Attack, she is reduced to 0 Hit Points, but 12 damage remains. Because the remaining damage equals her hit point maximum, the Cleric dies.

Falling Unconscious
If damage reduces you to 0 Hit Points and fails to kill you, you fall Unconscious (see Conditions ). This unconsciousness ends if you regain any Hit Points.

Death Saving Throws
Whenever you start Your Turn with 0 Hit Points, you must make a Special saving throw, called a death saving throw, to determine whether you creep closer to death or hang onto life. Unlike other Saving Throws, this one isn’t tied to any ability score. You are in the hands of fate now, aided only by Spells and features that improve your chances of succeeding on a saving throw.

Roll a d20: If the roll is 10 or higher, you succeed. Otherwise, you fail. A success or failure has no Effect by itself. On your third success, you become stable (see below). On your third failure, you die. The successes and failures don’t need to be consecutive; keep track of both until you collect three of a kind. The number of both is reset to zero when you regain any Hit Points or become stable.

Rolling 1 or 20: When you make a death saving throw and roll a 1 on The D20, it counts as two failures. If you roll a 20 on The D20, you regain 1 hit point.

Damage at 0 Hit Points: If you take any damage while you have 0 Hit Points, you suffer a death saving throw failure. If the damage is from a critical hit, you suffer two failures instead. If the damage equals or exceeds your hit point maximum, you suffer Instant Death.

Stabilizing a Creature
The best way to save a creature with 0 Hit Points is to heal it. If Healing is unavailable, the creature can at least be stabilized so that it isn’t killed by a failed death saving throw.

You can use your action to administer first aid to an Unconscious creature and attempt to stabilize it, which requires a successful DC 10 Wisdom (Medicine) check.

A stable creature doesn’t make Death Saving Throws, even though it has 0 Hit Points, but it does remain Unconscious. The creature stops being stable, and must start making Death Saving Throws again, if it takes any damage. A stable creature that isn’t healed regains 1 hit point after 1d4 hours.
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I think they are making the help a small revival is because fights are gruesome and very often you're already in strong minority...I am 11 hours into early access and still have to make a fight where I did face less enemies than my party.Also reviving makes your companion spend his/ her attack...just to see that companion being downed by the next enemy

[Aasimar[GER]]

its like this in 5e yes... the whole 5e system is to keep the game flowing...
they made stuff easy with advantage and disadvantage...
caster can use always cantrip (which are realy good if you compare them with 3.5)
and players almost cant die..
if you attack someone with 0 HP then hes dead

[catking2003]

Originally posted by Northern:

Right now BG3 uses soften rules for many aspects. I guess it is because difficulty level not in and they dont want to go hard on people that not into dnd.

Help is action and you need medicine check.

Ok thanks. That makes sense.

[R3sistance]

Right now, even compared to 5E, the revive system is a little light. In 5E it is considered hard to kill a PC (not impossible). One of the things in 5E which I haven't seen here yet is that creatures can attack a downed target and force 2 failed death saves, 3 failed death saves is death.

Another thing I haven't seen/tested but maybe in the game, if an attack takes a target down to a negative HP value equal to their maximum HP, it's an instant death, no saving throws at all. So if you had Max 10HP and got hit for 20 damage in a single attack you'd be dead. After going to negative HP your HP resets to 0, so long as the attack did not instantly kill you. Would be nice to confirm if these rules are in the game or not but maybe hard to replicate them at the minute.