Problems with BG Fans

[Alex]

I'm very casually into DnD and have never played a Baldurs Gate game. With that being said I really do not understand the hate for this game. Sure it is buggy and has a few problems, but the core gameplay is really fun in my opinion and the potential for this game to be downright amazing is there. For those complaining about this not being BG1 or BG2 I must ask, why do you care so much? This game can easily stand alone, if they called it "Scuffed DnD" y'all would not be complaining.

[Mark]

They complain and cry just because is latest fashion! Real fan of games adapts and evolve.

[zion6]

Shame on you for simply enjoying a new game! Instead of playing you could be complaining you know. Learn to manage your time better. Seriously I agree with everything you say. We are talking about a video game here, not world peace. Unless there is a game called World Peace?

[SomeDink]

This recent "hotfix" broke the dx11 version for me.

There's plenty to warrant complaints.

[Midnight Cookies]

Perhaps they exist somewhere... Those disappointed fans that don`t buy the game or just get a refund and don`t complain with 50k copy paste everywhere.

[Gotrek]

The game is just too much like DOS2. It's a watered down version of it actually. I understand it's early access but so far the game runs like crap. This doesn't feel like Baldurs Gate because it feels like DOS2. So far this isn't the story of Baal. I could be wrong and jumping the gun here but I'm almost 10 hours in. I will only speak for myself when I say I was never expecting another BG1 or 2. I was expecting interesting characters. This doesn't have that. I was expecting a better, more open exploration system. This doesn't have that. I was expecting a deeper, expansive combat system. This doesn't have that.

Look at the Pillars of Eternity series. THAT game felt like Baldurs Gate and it's not even DnD. They have a turn based option and that still felt a lot more like BG. I absolutely love Divinity OS 2 but this is not it and it's not what I paid for. Maybe thats what "BG fans" are meaning.

[troj]

Originally posted by Mark:

They complain and cry just because is latest fashion! Real fan of games adapts and evolve.

Fighting fire with fire?

[wirednight]

The Baldur's Gate games are one of the most beloved games in any game history. Not just DnD but game history as a whole. A lot of people have an emotional investment in the Baldur's Gate franchise, hence part of the reason of the hate.

So this game isn't what the old BG games used to be. That I can agree on. Heck DnD has moved on what... two full editions and a half edition since the first DnD came out... maybe a few more. So DnD has moved on, it would be logical to assume Baldur's Gate has moved.

But people don't go change well. Geeks and Nerds still fight about what edition of DnD is best, so you're going to get the carry over into BG3 as well.

But honestly to understand why they care so much, you need to play BG1 and BG2.

[Moga CMDR]

Some people don't really understanding basic concepts, so they cry about things like TB combat.

Others just want to feel better than everyone else so they rant and rave.

Best just ignore them, though it is hard to do as new threads pop up fast.

[Lamiosa]

It is not an issue with BG-fans. BG2 was one of the greatest games I played, so I am also a fan of. The issue is that there are trolls who already (should) know that the game differs from BG2, but want to act like they are surprised now and just damage reputation of BG3.

Btw. they are not really fans of "Baldurs Gate" or of "Forgotten Realm", else they would know Baldurs Gate refers to a region at the sword coast and not the story around Bhaal spawns.

[Moga CMDR]

Originally posted by SomeDink:

This recent "hotfix" broke the dx11 version for me.

There's plenty to warrant complaints.

that literally has nothing to do with the OP.

[Warmonger]

Apparently some people can't stand a situation when something is not exactly how they imagined it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ They don't rate BG3 for what it is, but for what it is not.

BG1 and 2 were not perfect either, and they ARE very dated. If you try to play them today... this can't work in 2020, sorry. The world has changed over last 20 years and won't come back.

The game is just too much like DOS2

I never played DOS2, and I don't care. But I do know it got some crazy good reviews: https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/divinity-original-sin-ii

So, what else it BG3 supposed to be like? GTA? Mortal Kombat? Tetris? Goat Simulator?
All RPG are similiar, and some things just work well while others do not. Especially in Baldur's Gate, whcih is supposed to be a classic RPG. Did you expect Larian to develop a completely novel, inferior game on purpose?

The older ones were much more complex and a dream come true for build crafting & customizing characters (3.5 for instance had not just the base classes we see now but also beguiler, war mage, duskblade, dragon shaman and just short of 1000 different prestige classes)

Dude, what are you talking about. BG1 and 2 were based on 2nd edition, and it had some serious design flaws.

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Thats the reason why you dont understand. Because you never played it.

They complain because they care about the series. Im a long time fan of BG myself and i wasn't really happy when they announced BG3. All i could think about is how it will be just another ruined franchise. Although i don't dislike this game for some reason, i think it could be fun and good game if Larian do their best. So i gave it a chance.

[[TG] zac]

The original baludr's gate games (much like the neverwinter games) used an older edition.
The current edition that BG3 uses is 5th edition.
The older ones were much more complex and a dream come true for build crafting & customizing characters (3.5 for instance had not just the base classes we see now but also beguiler, war mage, duskblade, dragon shaman and just short of 1000 different prestige classes)

The current edition is extremely simple by comparison, it can be fun don't get me wrong but there is so much that was lost that can no longer be done.

[Altair]

Originally posted by Alex:

I'm very casually into DnD and have never played a Baldurs Gate game.

Well then of course you can't understand this debate... I suggest you go and play BG1 and 2 and come back afterwards :-)

[Kn8cK]

Originally posted by Mark:

They complain and cry just because is latest fashion! Real fan of games adapts and evolve.

Good goy, consoom, give money and wait for next product.
Consoom, Goy!