ray of frost is op cantrip.

[Zunymitshu]

does more damage then fire bolt, freezes liquids in the area (blood included) which forces a prone save on attack, and can slow the enemy.

fire bolt does 1d6 vs 1d8, burns for like 1 extra damage and will ignite a finite amount of materials which usually ends up with friendly fire unless you use it as a opener.

[Stabbey]

Yep. It's way too strong.

At an absolute minimum, there's no way it should both deal damage AND create a surface at the same time.

[R3sistance]

If firebolt is 1d6, that sounds like a bug, it should be 1d10. But right now, yea Ray of Frost is OPed.

Originally posted by Stabbey:

Yep. It's way too strong.

At an absolute minimum, there's no way it should both deal damage AND create a surface at the same time.

You forgot the part where it decreases movement speed too, which is how it works in 5E 1d8 - 10 foot movement speed where firebolt does 1d10.

[Midnight]

In fairness, where you can CC a person. I can light multiple on fire :P also it's 1d4 fire damage extra. Plus, i imagine the "potential combination early going grease + firebolt" is meant to be Optimal pathing, since you won't be getting any "large" aoe's outside sleep early on.

[Indure]

Originally posted by Balthier:

In fairness, where you can CC a person. I can light multiple on fire :P also it's 1d4 fire damage extra. Plus, i imagine the "potential combination early going grease + firebolt" is meant to be Optimal pathing, since you won't be getting any "large" aoe's outside sleep early on.

Grease + firebolt takes two turns and a spell slot. Ray of Frost is a cantrip that does 1d8, CC for a round and gives advantage to all attacks against the target. It's completely busted.

Edit: Sidenote is that it also goes against AC instead of spell resistance which seems easier to successfully land at early levels with enemies' low AC.

[Midnight]

Said first turn, is an aoe potential prone and slow. Followed by an explosion then layered fire damage. But it is strong. I was surprised by the inclusion of the prone condition.