Baldur's Gate 3

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2nd8Kit 2020 年 10 月 7 日 上午 10:03
Wizards learning spells
It seems like wizards are able to learn all spells from scrolls. This kind of takes away the point of having non-wizard spell casters. In actual D&D rules they should only be allowed to learn spells from the wizard spell list this way.
I just tested this and my wizard successfully learned Guiding Bolt. I hope this is just a byproduct of EA and not final.
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Blackwolfe 2020 年 10 月 7 日 上午 10:06 
To me it sounds like a bug. I also found it rather odd being able to learn from pretty much every single scroll.
Digihuman 2020 年 10 月 7 日 上午 10:08 
Yes. As a wizard main, I do appreciate the versatility it offers but would rather stick as closely to 5e's rules as possible.

Also, I found a spell scroll of a spell called "Summon Quasit". I paid gold to "learn" it and it doesn't appear in my spell selection. High-level spells don't let you learn them but this one seems to be buggy.
Gawdsmack 2020 年 10 月 7 日 上午 10:20 
引用自 2nd8Kit
It seems like wizards are able to learn all spells from scrolls. This kind of takes away the point of having non-wizard spell casters. In actual D&D rules they should only be allowed to learn spells from the wizard spell list this way.
I just tested this and my wizard successfully learned Guiding Bolt. I hope this is just a byproduct of EA and not final.


Could be a bug as well, might bring it up on the larian forums..
SquawkBox 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 12:41 
yeah this makes no sense at all, and what's even worse is that fighters can cast any scroll you give them
having a fighter cast a fireball is pretty stupid, and will lead to classes feeling the same in the end
Shadow 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 12:52 
Being able to learn non-wizard spells definitely sounds like a bug, as does anyone being able to use a scroll (it should require the class having the spell on their spell list).

My guess would be it's something carried over from Divinity, where anyone could use any scroll and learn any spell/ability from books, even if they didn't currently fulfill the requirements to use it.
V33dub 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 12:58 
Got to be a ea bug. Wizard should only be able to learn arcane scrolls
AnonArchia 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 1:00 
I second this !
Cybermancer 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 1:06 
Also paying gold to learn spells is a little bit odd. I couldn't find that in D&D 5e.
What happens to the gold when learn a spell from a scroll? Does it just disappear into thin air?
This is nonsensical. If you want to make spell access for wizards more difficult please find an ingame reason that actually makes sense, like being required to learn over the spell over several rests and losing spell slots cause you spend your time learning that particular spell.
Speedy Gonzalles 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 1:09 
引用自 Cybermancer
Also paying gold to learn spells is a little bit odd. I couldn't find that in D&D 5e.
What happens to the gold when learn a spell from a scroll? Does it just disappear into thin air?
This is nonsensical. If you want to make spell access for wizards more difficult please find an ingame reason that actually makes sense, like being required to learn over the spell over several rests and losing spell slots cause you spend your time learning that particular spell.

It is actually in 5e. Scribing a spell into your spellbook costs 50g times the level of the spell. Says it in the "Learning spells of 1st level and higher" section.

The more confusing bug is that wizards can learn ANYTHING from a scroll. Gale can use guiding bolt which is a cleric spell.
Dani 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 1:11 
In defense of the fighter casting from scrolls, they do get the eldritch knight class which is essentially a spell casting fighter. Though, I would make this subclass a requirement to cast spells from scrolls easily, personally.

I don't think there's currently any distinction to what kind of magic a scroll is at this time. I do think that it'll be important to keep wizards contained to arcane spells per the rules. I've never known a wizard to be able to cast divine spells simply on account of the role they serve.

There are certainly exceptions to the rule, such as the Divine Soul among the Sorcerer subclasses which allows a sorcerer to learn both arcane and divine spells, but this is exclusive to sorcerer. There could be an interesting subclass of wizard which allows for it as well, either present or future.. Perhaps a Theurge subclass of some kind.

This does bring about the issue of the revival scrolls, which could be made the exception as a fighter with a revival scroll wouldn't be able to use it without the training to. This would make the game needlessly more difficult when Larian is already balancing it around the likely hood that people will have to use these scrolls.
Enclave 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 1:15 
Learning spells at the cost of gold? Working as intended.

Learning non-Wizard spells from scrolls? Obvious bug that will be fixed.
Cybermancer 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 1:36 
引用自 Speedy Gonzalles
It is actually in 5e. Scribing a spell into your spellbook costs 50g times the level of the spell. Says it in the "Learning spells of 1st level and higher" section.

The more confusing bug is that wizards can learn ANYTHING from a scroll. Gale can use guiding bolt which is a cleric spell.
I stand corrected. The Core Rule Book states that:
"For each level of the spell, the process takes 2 hours and costs 50 gp. The cost represents material components you expend as you experiment with the spell to master it, as well as the fine inks you need to record it."

So the most faithful way to implement this would be to add vendors that sell the required material components and allow copying spells only during rests in camp.
But the gold simply disappearing and the spell instataneously appearing in your spell book breaks immersion for me.

But it's a minor point and i wont grieve forever when the developers decide it would be to complex for most players or to hard to implement.
Instigator 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 1:39 
Also can learn cantrips from scrolls currently which is pretty OP.
RealDealBreaker 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 2:25 
引用自 Cybermancer
Also paying gold to learn spells is a little bit odd. I couldn't find that in D&D 5e.

Then you didn't look very hard. It is explicit in rules that Wizards can copy spells into their spellbook at a rate of 50gp and 2 hours per level of the spell being copied (half price for spells in your school once you select school at level 2).
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Cybermancer 2020 年 10 月 7 日 下午 4:14 
引用自 RealDealBreaker
引用自 Cybermancer
Also paying gold to learn spells is a little bit odd. I couldn't find that in D&D 5e.

Then you didn't look very hard. It is explicit in rules that Wizards can copy spells into their spellbook at a rate of 50gp and 2 hours per level of the spell being copied (half price for spells in your school once you select school at level 2).

I already conceded my mistake.

But it's not 50 gp but components worth 50 gp. Huge difference.
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