So far I hate all of my companions, game needs custom party asap

[Ernst Stavro Blofeld]

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[Sombrero]

Originally posted by Iso Koala:

Originally posted by Replicant:

All kinds of people to recruit? I'm not sure you ever played Baldur's Gate. There's only a fixed amount, lad. Come on, you can do better research than that.

What he meant is, that in BG 1 and 2 you meet new people to join you after 20 hours of playing. And those people have very varied personalities to fit party...or not fit.

In this you DOS2 you meet all the team members you can ever reqruite in first 1 hour and dont get more later.

I personally prefer the approach of having all party members quickly so you can go through everything together. There's a lot of games that suffer from the syndrom of "late party member has 0 screen time".

Now right now I feel the characters are thrown to your face in a very awkward way except for Lae'Zel and Shadowheart which are both well introduced but the 3 others I was like who the heck are you ?

And just like in DOS2 their reason for going on an adventure with you is a bit thin. I mean yeah you have th same goal and survival and all that, but realistically they are capable enough to go do that by themselves too.

Then again I might have missed some party members during the disco pulpy intro sequence perhaps ? (Haven't seen Astarion, Gale or the 5th dude I still have not came across at all and don't know his name).

[Iso Koala]

Originally posted by Sombrero:

Originally posted by Iso Koala:

What he meant is, that in BG 1 and 2 you meet new people to join you after 20 hours of playing. And those people have very varied personalities to fit party...or not fit.

In this you DOS2 you meet all the team members you can ever reqruite in first 1 hour and dont get more later.

I personally prefer the approach of having all party members quickly so you can go through everything together. There's a lot of games that suffer from the syndrom of "late party member has 0 screen time".

True too. But in BG it added replayability too, when on second game you would go first to areas where you get them, etc.

[Wanderer]

Yeah, i dont really like the companions either, but i have to pick some because i dont want to run around alone. No valid romance option either.

Hoping for a companion variety like BG1 and 2 is probably too much to ask, so just adding custom characters is fine. This leaves out a decent romance though.. but you gotta take cuts i guess.

[Night]

Originally posted by AdventM:

Originally posted by Replicant:

All kinds of people to recruit? I'm not sure you ever played Baldur's Gate. There's only a fixed amount, lad. Come on, you can do better research than that.

Hey goofball, I'm saying you weren't forced into using anyone. Sure you got Lemon, and Khalid/Jheria, but you could ditch them for that evil mage and rogue that you met along the road up to the Friendly Arm Inn. That's just for starters.

You could actually, you know, choose more than what you're forced to take with Divinity.

There were like 6 possible premade companions in DOS2 and you could literally choose what class they were.

They've already said more companions will be available for BG3... there were also only like 6/7 in BG2.

I'm really not even sure what this complaint is about.

Obviously this is early access so everything isn't in the game yet. Custom characters and the like will be added. People are unreasonable.

[Iso Koala]

Originally posted by Night:

They've already said more companions will be available for BG3... there were also only like 6/7 in BG2.

Uh, there was 15 in original BG2. Apparently more in newer EE.

[Ogre Beautiful]

Originally posted by dadamowsky:

How do you even swap party members in the first place? I can't find the option :P

I didnt try it, but in the camp scene I think I saw an option to tell someone to "stay in camp", so I imagine you can tell someone to come along as well.

[Keno]

Interesting why people still try to compare EA BG3 to fully release DOS2 or BG2.

[Sombrero]

Originally posted by Keno:

Interesting why people still try to compare EA BG3 to fully release DOS2 or BG2.

EA is meant to give feedback.

It's a valid feedback to ask for custom characters especially when DOS2 was never able to deliver that feature. It was not truly necessary then because there was no class but now that there are classes if there will be no way in the future to change classes for characters it's fair to ask for custom party when playing single player.

Especially since it's feasible already in the EA just by playing a 4 players game from the start.

[hellgeist]

If they let you make your own NPCs, how in the world would they be able to reliably abuse and brainwash you with their sick communist ideas? We'll have to wait for modding tools to do this, I think.

[Iso Koala]

Originally posted by Sombrero:

Originally posted by Keno:

Interesting why people still try to compare EA BG3 to fully release DOS2 or BG2.

EA is meant to give feedback.

It's a valid feedback to ask for custom characters especially when DOS2 was never able to deliver that feature. It was not truly necessary then because there was no class but now that there are classes if there will be no way in the future to change classes for characters it's fair to ask for custom party when playing single player.

Especially since it's feasible already in the EA just by playing a 4 players game from the start.

This.

Interesting how some people insist that nothing should be discussed on discussion boards...

[Boink]

Originally posted by Sombrero:

Now right now I feel the characters are thrown to your face in a very awkward way except for Lae'Zel and Shadowheart which are both well introduced but the 3 others I was like who the heck are you ?

You can find various shattered canisters around the map if you look for them, and the Illithid brain telepathy kinda hints (you meet NPCs who are part of an illithid worshipping sect) that your brain bugs are heavily encouraging you all to get together.

Worst scene? Why is rando McWarlockHero teaching children how to fight... when he's literally crashed at the same time as you? Talk about over-trusting community.

[Ferrsai]

Originally posted by Ernst Stavro Blofeld:

I´ll be happy with custom party with one or two slots for story NPC and their quests, and some mods that allow you tu use 6 man party, did I already tell you how much I hate 4 man party?

I agree, four man party is boring for story telling and it's boring in combat. They need to change how movement works, like switch to a selection based movement (click and drag characters or shift click cards), if they were to add more character slots. I'd be happy with five. When you get the druid for a little bit, that felt pretty good. I had a tank and an off tank, a mage, a rogue and a cleric. It felt like how it should have been.

On a side note, these companions need to be speaking up in conversations more and every party member needs to bring their skills to the table in conversation. It's so annoying and non-immersive to go through a conversation, reach a check you don't have but your guy does, then redo the conversation with that guy. Same with vendor pricing. It should be calculated based off the best negotiator, because that's the guy on a crew that would be tasked with procuring equipment and hawking loot.

Every party member in this game is too far out there for my tastes. I'd kick their asses to the curb and go recruit some mercs with the 10k gold I just made. I don't want a vampire rogue that tries to butt sex me in my sleep. Can I just get a regular thief?

What, your a vampire? Dead. What, you're a Shar worshipper? Dead. What, you say you need to consume powerful magical artifacts? I don't know what you are, but it sounds ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and I like artifacts. Dead. Githyanki? Maybe she'll prove to be an outlier for her race. Nope, arrogant piece of ♥♥♥♥ blind follower Githyanki that can't think for herself. Dead. Who didn't I kill? Oh yeah, the Warlock. Work on your aim Wyll or you'll join the rest of'em.

[Nariel]

For me I just find it slightly unoriginal that all the companions were on the same Illithid ship as you, survived with out a scratch and all have the tadpoles inside their brains

In BG only you were the only Bhaalspawn (before learning about Sarevok and Imoen) so other companions couldn't relate to what you were going through

In this game, It feels too much like, "You were on the same ship too, no way, me too!" vibe

[SupMellow?]

Originally posted by Fersailles:

Originally posted by Ernst Stavro Blofeld:

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What, your a vampire? Dead. What, you're a Shar worshipper? Dead. What, you say you need to consume powerful magical artifacts? I don't know what you are, but it sounds ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and I like artifacts. Dead. Githyanki? Maybe she'll prove to be an outlier for her race. Nope, arrogant piece of ♥♥♥♥ blind follower Githyanki that can't think for herself. Dead. Who didn't I kill? Oh yeah, the Warlock. Work on your aim Wyll or you'll join the rest of'em.

Hahaha! So true

[Boink]

Originally posted by Nariel:

For me I just find it slightly unoriginal that all the companions were on the same Illithid ship as you, survived with out a scratch and all have the tadpoles inside their brains

In BG only you were the only Bhaalspawn (before learning about Sarevok and Imoen) so other companions couldn't relate to what you were going through

In this game, It feels too much like, "You were on the same ship too, no way, me too!" vibe

1) Well, yeah. It's going to be a hard sell finding *other* tadpole infected people in the region otherwise .... unless there's been lots of ships crashing

2) You weren't. LOL. The ENTIRE STORY is about multiple different B-spawns across the entire realms.

3) You're in the starting area... no ♥♥♥♥. Hint: Tadpoles might have been harvesting "gifted" characters, that's why you were all in the damn pod... Remember the intro video? It was sucking up thousands of humanoids

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Imagination fail.