Picking Faiths for Non-Cleric Characters

[Haven]

I can't be the only one who wishes that they could select a deity to follow on my other characters. My very first D&D character was a half-elf Warlord (4e) that worshipped the dwarven god Moradin. I tried to recreate him as a fighter battlemaster but was disappointed when I couldn't select his deity, a feature that heavily defined the way my character was played. And what of my Drow bladedancer Wizard from Menzoberanzan that secretly worships Eilistraee?

Also, Drow having two "subraces" feels really strange when the options could be summed up with either picking a religion or a hometown.

Anybody else wish they could select a religion for their characters?

[FissionChips]

Agreed.

[Planeforger]

Sure, why not.

It might make conversations more complicated though, since Larian might meed to add [Non-cleric follower of X] dialogue options alongside all of the [Cleric of X] dialogue already in the game...

[FerrousAradicen]

I'll agree as long as there's a choice to not have one.

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by FerrousAradicen:

I'll agree as long as there's a choice to not have one.

I mean, that’s already possible in the Forgotten Realms lore, but it’s also a really bad idea because morality is objectively part of the cosmos and is a force as powerful as gravity.

But sure, you do you.

[Lady_Regret]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by FerrousAradicen:

I'll agree as long as there's a choice to not have one.

I mean, that’s already possible in the Forgotten Realms lore, but it’s also a really bad idea because morality is objectively part of the cosmos and is a force as powerful as gravity.

But sure, you do you.

I'd say it's really bad simply because there's a very canon nasty afterlife for the faithless in Faerun but otherwise I agree that there should be that option anyway if someone doesn't want to play a religious character.

[ArchmageXin]

Originally posted by FerrousAradicen:

I'll agree as long as there's a choice to not have one.

Religion is a funny thing in FRR.

You could be a child murderer but worship Cyric, then you go to your "heaven" even if you spend eternity murdering other followers of Cyric.

You might select Tempus, and spend your after life fighting wars over and over, like Khrone from Warhammer 40K.

You love books? worship Orgma and spend eternity reading in a library.


Etc etc.

But worship no one at all suck balls. Because then you spend eternity getting tortured for not signing up with a God/goddess by the God of death. Yup. God of Death's only job is basically punishing people who forgot to sign up with a god, or who betrayed his god/goddess agenda.

Unless you were a Drow in RA Salvatore's novel, picking no faith is SOL if you end up dead.

[Haven]

Absolutely. Having "none" as an option would make sense as there are many who are skeptical of the true nature and divinity of Faerun's gods. I would just love to have some opportunities for dialogue based on faith from non-cleric characters.

And yeah, what Dragon Master said about faith/alignment/morality being a cosmic force is super true. I honestly enjoy that aspect of the setting.

[Rhawkas]

Agreed, it would be nice to have.

[Lady_Regret]

Originally posted by ArchmageXin:

Originally posted by FerrousAradicen:

I'll agree as long as there's a choice to not have one.

Unless you were a Drow in RA Salvatore's novel, picking no faith is SOL if you end up dead.

I believe Drow are considered auto claimed by Lloth unless they actively take a deity that isn't her. Even if she doesn't like them she still ends up with their souls which she turns into spider demons.

[Haven]

Originally posted by ArchmageXin:

Originally posted by FerrousAradicen:

I'll agree as long as there's a choice to not have one.

Religion is a funny thing in FRR.

You could be a child murderer but worship Cyric, then you go to your "heaven" even if you spend eternity murdering other followers of Cyric.

You might select Tempus, and spend your after life fighting wars over and over, like Khrone from Warhammer 40K.

You love books? worship Orgma and spend eternity reading in a library.


Etc etc.

But worship no one at all suck balls. Because then you spend eternity getting tortured for not signing up with a God/goddess by the God of death. Yup. God of Death's only job is basically punishing people who forgot to sign up with a god, or who betrayed his god/goddess agenda.

Unless you were a Drow in RA Salvatore's novel, picking no faith is SOL if you end up dead.

Drizzt follows Meilikki for most of the novels even if he doesn't endorse all of her ideals. Mild spoiler, but later on he adapts a more monk-like outlook.

[FissionChips]

Originally posted by Lady_Regret:

Originally posted by ArchmageXin:

Unless you were a Drow in RA Salvatore's novel, picking no faith is SOL if you end up dead.

I believe Drow are considered auto claimed by Lloth unless they actively take a deity that isn't her. Even if she doesn't like them she still ends up with their souls which she turns into spider demons.

Can confirm. Drow clerics are stuck with 1 deity if you pick the lolth-sworn subrace. Seldarine Drow can pick any deity as cleric.

[Lady_Regret]

Originally posted by Haven923:

Originally posted by ArchmageXin:

Religion is a funny thing in FRR.

You could be a child murderer but worship Cyric, then you go to your "heaven" even if you spend eternity murdering other followers of Cyric.

You might select Tempus, and spend your after life fighting wars over and over, like Khrone from Warhammer 40K.

You love books? worship Orgma and spend eternity reading in a library.


Etc etc.

But worship no one at all suck balls. Because then you spend eternity getting tortured for not signing up with a God/goddess by the God of death. Yup. God of Death's only job is basically punishing people who forgot to sign up with a god, or who betrayed his god/goddess agenda.

Unless you were a Drow in RA Salvatore's novel, picking no faith is SOL if you end up dead.

Drizzt follows Meilikki for most of the novels even if he doesn't endorse all of her ideals. Mild spoiler, but later on he adapts a more monk-like outlook.

Drizzt has a...unique view on religion for a D&D character that supposedly worships a deity because he internalizes everything. I think he always had a monk view point and just didn't realize it because no one ever explained it to him before.

[ArchmageXin]

Originally posted by Haven923:

Originally posted by ArchmageXin:

Religion is a funny thing in FRR.

You could be a child murderer but worship Cyric, then you go to your "heaven" even if you spend eternity murdering other followers of Cyric.

You might select Tempus, and spend your after life fighting wars over and over, like Khrone from Warhammer 40K.

You love books? worship Orgma and spend eternity reading in a library.


Etc etc.

But worship no one at all suck balls. Because then you spend eternity getting tortured for not signing up with a God/goddess by the God of death. Yup. God of Death's only job is basically punishing people who forgot to sign up with a god, or who betrayed his god/goddess agenda.

Unless you were a Drow in RA Salvatore's novel, picking no faith is SOL if you end up dead.

Drizzt follows Meilikki for most of the novels even if he doesn't endorse all of her ideals. Mild spoiler, but later on he adapts a more monk-like outlook.

Actually, I was referring to Drizzt's dad, Zaknafikin. I specifically asked RA. Salvatore at a con a decade ago, and he flatly admit he was not following canon for the good of a story. By all means Zak should ended up @ city of dead either during Mishkul or Cyric's reign, which would sucked for him.

So RA Salvatore (and a few others authors) kind of brought Christanity into the game who they shouldn't have.

[ArchmageXin]

Originally posted by Lady_Regret:

Originally posted by ArchmageXin:

Unless you were a Drow in RA Salvatore's novel, picking no faith is SOL if you end up dead.

I believe Drow are considered auto claimed by Lloth unless they actively take a deity that isn't her. Even if she doesn't like them she still ends up with their souls which she turns into spider demons.

Tell that to RA. Salvatore, who decided to give Drizzt's father a Christan faith/redeepmtion in the last second...

[Farthest Yuggyth]

Yeah faith can't be a character driving force unless a cleric is bs. The list is incredibly limp too.