D&D Gods

[cire87]

I know in 5e its narrowed down to one patheon and then lesser and demi but havent found any info on the Overgod in 5E does io or whatever his name is still exsist

[TrueWarlord真の武]

In Forgotten Realms there are the lord Ao. It's the god of the gods.

Forgotten Realms is the official setting of D&D 5e, but D&D is a system. Each setting have its own pantheon.

[cire87]

im kinda dumb so what ur trying to say Yes Ao is still a thing only thing that changes are those below him ?

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Originally posted by cire87:

im kinda dumb so what ur trying to say Yes Ao is still a thing only thing that changes are those below him ?

In your first post you're asking about the D&D5e pantheon, and if there is an "Overgod" in D&D 5e.

What I'm telling you is that D&D is a system, and there are many "worlds", that we call "settings" for D&D 5e. Each setting has it's own pantheon.

Forgotten Realms is the name of the D&D 5e official "world"/setting.

In Forgotten Realms, there are one being that is above the gods, and his name is Lord Ao. He is the "Overgod" you're looking for.

Not sure what exactly you did not understood.

[Dragon Master]

For example, if you were to play in Eberron, which is another setting, it has a completely different pantheon of gods than the Forgotten Realms has. If you were to homebrew, or use the Taldorei and Wildemount as a setting then there would be another set of gods.

Sometimes the gods overlap settings, such as Serenrae and Asmodeus but not all gods do that.

[cire87]

How many pantheons are there? and i thought it was only one world with a bunch of different planes. AO rules above all including the planes and everything in exsistence ?

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by cire87:

How many pantheons are there? and i thought it was only one world with a bunch of different planes. AO rules above all including the planes and everything in exsistence ?

Practically unlimited. You can use the Greek or Egyptian pantheon if you wanted in a home brew game.

It’s D&D. You have literally all the options but the only things you don’t control are other people and the consequences of what you do.

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Originally posted by cire87:

How many pantheons are there? and i thought it was only one world with a bunch of different planes. AO rules above all including the planes and everything in exsistence ?

There is not too much about Lord Ao, but you may want to check this:

LINK = https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ao

In my understanding, Ed Greenwood wanted Lord Ao to be the representation of the DM powers, something that put fear even in the gods.

At least tha is what I always suspected, but I can't talk for him, neither he ever said that (not that I'm aware, at least).

[cire87]

how many worlds and do the planes count as worlds cause in 5e i know theres a god in hell and a bunch in other places

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Originally posted by cire87:

how many worlds and do the planes count as worlds cause in 5e i know theres a god in hell and a bunch in other places

One thing you seem to have not understand yet, D&D is a system. A game system.

You can use D&D to play in our real world if you want to.

There are many major worlds/settings, and each setting have its own rules, planes and ideas.

You may want to check worlds/settings like Dark Sun, Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Greyhawk, Dragonlance, Eberron, Planescape, Spelljammer, etc.

Look, I will be honest with you. What you're asking here makes no sense. There is no such a thing as "the worlds of D&D 5e". Anyone can create his own world to play D&D 5e in. The famous worlds/settings are the ones I listed above, and there are even others "famous".

Also, bear in mind that the official D&D world/setting for D&D 5e is Forgotten Realms.

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Ao was always an allegory for the Dungeon Master themselves. Everybody knows he exists, but he does not involve himself in the petty affairs of mortals. In fact, he rarely gets involved with anything that is not of god-level significance.

And this helped create the situation for Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2 with the Bhaalspawn.

[cire87]

so epic and mind blowing

[Digihuman]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Ao was always an allegory for the Dungeon Master themselves. Everybody knows he exists, but he does not involve himself in the petty affairs of mortals. In fact, he rarely gets involved with anything that is not of god-level significance.

So... does that mean we dungeon masters were the ones who took the gods of the forgotten realms, stripped them of their powers, and made them prove themselves in order to regain them (during which time the goddess of magic got herself killed)?

I mean I'm not saying we GMs aren't above that sort of thing but usually we'd just do it for kicks instead of to make our victims learn a lesson.

[beck12s]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Digihuman:

So... does that mean we dungeon masters were the ones who took the gods of the forgotten realms, stripped them of their powers, and made them prove themselves in order to regain them (during which time the goddess of magic got herself killed)?

I mean I'm not saying we GMs aren't above that sort of thing but usually we'd just do it for kicks instead of to make our victims learn a lesson.

Pretty much, yes.

All the gods except for Helm got booted out of their respective planes and turned into mortals because Ao (who's a stand in for whoever is running the campaign) willed it so.


That's why Ao doesn't give out miracles, or interact with mortals. They're too busy dealing with matters of more cosmic proportions, to give any attention to simple peasants, nobles and priests. It's also why nobody may ascend to godhood without the approval of Ao first, and why he has the power to demote the gods at any time he wants.

Ao is basically the DM's self insertion. No being in the Forgotten Realms is more powerful than the person who is responsible for running the campaign.

Lord Ao's master is thought to be the dm (they are mentioned in The Avatar Series)

[Millstone85]

Originally posted by TrueWarlord真の武:

Forgotten Realms is the official setting of D&D 5e, but D&D is a system.

Actually, Forgotten Realms is the unofficial setting of D&D 5e.

The PHB, MM and DMG are not FR books. Even books named after FR characters (Volo and Xanathar) or Greyhawk ones (Mordenkainen and Tasha) are not specifically about these settings.

Or, if anything, they are Planescape books, assuming that the worlds of FR, Greyhawk and others are all part of the same Material Plane, and surrounded by the same Elemental and Outer Planes.

But FR is definitely the most influential setting, for example with the PHB adopting the Weave as the default model of magic.

[Drake Duckson]

I read Avatars Trilogy, and, iirc, it's been said that there are some powers even above Ao. DMs wife or mother probably...