Should have been DOS 3

[HixBozo]

Because DnD is archaic mechanics

They made a way better modern mechanics with DOS and now throw it all to the waste with archaic mechanics.

The game will likely be pretty but the DnD will ruin it. Too old system for 2020

[Opossum]

引用自 HixBozo：

And also something else outside the scope of the gamble discussion which is rarely mentioned, if at all, is that Larian is taking a very hot potato to make. DnD pure RNG games are much more harder to build from gameplay and encounter challenge perspective than are non-random games. To speak in odds, the likelihood that they will mess up the resistances, enemies, and battles and the overall feeling of challenge is much higher. Because they allow randomness and randomness swings both ways, against the player and against the devs too if they fail to capture the essence and produce satisfactory random battles.

Provided that Larian is new at doing this system, please lower your expectations significantly.

https://dhmstark.co.uk/rpgs/encounter-calculator-5th/

[HixBozo]

I don't see this game coming anywhere soon, maybe 2025 final release. Although they have footage and such, thatis only the cosmetic engine part of it, and making out a full cohesive randomness-based game will require significant effort in the details and overall balance.

Long production time, expensive production time, they should have never touched DnD and go with DOS3 what they were good at and their own creation and assets

[dolby]

I'm starting to think you got Atychiphobia... this would explain the problems you are presenting...

[HixBozo]

hahaha very funny

[dolby]

引用自 HixBozo：

hahaha very funny

well, i don't want to be rude but Dnd would sound like a nightmare in that case.... same if you have mild ocd i guess...

[Opossum]

引用自 dolby：

I'm starting to think you got Atychiphobia... this would explain the problems you are presenting...

This would honestly explain a lot. it reminds me of the people who rage at Xcom and blame RNG for failures and say higher difficulties is all RNG and has nothing to do with them rushing enemies and having terrible positioning

[HixBozo]

XCOM's rating is M 17+ as BG3 should receive too and even higher 21+ addictive gambling dice mechanics

[dolby]

ok, can you take dice and throw them for 3 hrs straight... Then come back and tell us if you are addicted to it?! I bet by the first hour you gonna die from boredom...
all the other stuff makes a game addictive if you can even call it that.... not the dice rolls

[HixBozo]

I did that in BG1 and I was throwing dices for 3 hours in the character creation screen alone

[Opossum]

That says way more about you than it does about the game. Maybe you just need to make more use of f5 and f9 is you cant handle not getting the best outcome

[dolby]

引用自 HixBozo：

I did that in BG1 and I was throwing dices for 3 hours in the character creation screen alone

Well. like i said must be pain what did you try to roll 99 a 100?? i got 90s all the time...never took more then 5 minits on it... it's still not addictive btw...
if it was, you wouldn't get pass the character creation screen...

[HixBozo]

What do you know, I actually got a nice dice roll after 3 hours. At one point I was not happy with the build so went over and spent another useless 3 hours of my time rolling a new character. DnD is great system

[Dr.Gloom]

No, it is not gambling.

[VhagarTheLastOne]

引用自 HixBozo：

Folks who never played BG don't even know how pervasive gambling a system DnD is. They have no idea how unrewarding system that is. You never feel personal gratification from your tactics but feel like you are playing with dice. Even a win doesn't feel like a win but feels like throwing boxcars on a dice. In essence a game of blackjack.

DnD is thing of the past and the past should have been left alone. It was a system designed for old times.

Thats why there is DM who comfort you, he can give you better reward next time. I played DD when I was kid, I remember I killed one of my mates when I wanted to be Evil Wizard (Raistlin anyone?) after that we just started to drink ahd have fun etc.

If the game is unrewarding, DM can easily fix that. If you have a streak of bad luck, no problems.

[HixBozo]

引用自 Shred：

:lunar2019deadpanpig:No, it is not gambling.

Aham, 3 hours spent at rolling dices at char creation is not gambling

That is just character "optimization" with dices