Anti paladin class?

[Sheltz]

I played BG1 and 2 (enhanced edition) and i loved Dorn, he is my favourite character, an half orc neutral evil blackguard with a badass sword that becomes more powerful each time he kills an enemy.
My question is, since I am not a tabletop player (never played D&D tabletop so I dont really know its rules), is it possible to play as an anti paladin or something like that in the 5th edition?
Do you think Larian will add this kind of class in BG3?
If that's the case, Im gona absolutely play it.

[Dragon Master]

You can become an oathbreaker paladin at level 3 as one of the paladin's subclass.

It's essentially a Blackguard with limited necromantic ability.

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Sheltz:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

You can become an oathbreaker paladin at level 3 as one of the paladin's subclass.

It's essentially a Blackguard with limited necromantic ability.

Is there a race restriction for this kind of subclass? Or every races can become an "evil paladin"?

Every race can be every class in 5E. No racial restrictions for any classes this time around.

Some races have racial features that make them better suited to certain classes than others, but if you wanted to be a halfling barbarian, a gnome ranger/rogue, a half-orc sorcerer then have at it.

[Drake Duckson]

Githyanki seem to be the best options. We're all seen those guys in the Watcher's Keep.

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Sheltz:

That's super cool, a drow oathbreaker seems fun. I hope Larian will add this subclass once BG3 is released.

That does sound fun.

[DoM]

Dorn was introduced in ee therefore he doesn't exist in our real bg nerd universe so I don't know what you are talking about.

[Oven]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

You can become an oathbreaker paladin at level 3 as one of the paladin's subclass.

It's essentially a Blackguard with limited necromantic ability.

Was that confirmed?

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Oven:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

You can become an oathbreaker paladin at level 3 as one of the paladin's subclass.

It's essentially a Blackguard with limited necromantic ability.

Was that confirmed?

I don't know if it's confirmed for BG3 but it is a subclass for paladins in 5E.

I was answering the question based on my knowledge of 5E since the question was about whether or not the class was available in 5th edition.

As for whether or not it is in Baldur's Gate, all I can say is that I hope so. Same with Death Domain clerics and shadow sorcerers.

Since Swen said that players playing evil will have a ball I kind of figured on my own that the evil subclasses would be there but that is just speculation on my part.

[Hades]

Blackguard is essentially a fallen paladin or a warrior/fallen paladin with a Dark evil patron / evil God.

So even if there is not a Blackguard class / subclass i think someone could role play a Blackguard as good as or better than the oath-breaker paladin by multiclassing onr of the following:

fighter / warlock ( evil patron )
fighter / evil god cleric
Evil / fallen paladin (maybe oath-breaker but also oath of ancients , Oath Of The Crown ( evil kingdom ) Oath Of Vengeance ( against someone good or lawful ) Oath Of Conquest ) / evil god cleric
Evil / fallen paladin ( as above ) / warlock ( evil patron )

[Hades]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Oven:

Was that confirmed?

I don't know if it's confirmed for BG3 but it is a subclass for paladins in 5E.

I was answering the question based on my knowledge of 5E since the question was about whether or not the class was available in 5th edition.

As for whether or not it is in Baldur's Gate, all I can say is that I hope so. Same with Death Domain clerics and shadow sorcerers.

Since Swen said that players playing evil will have a ball I kind of figured on my own that the evil subclasses would be there but that is just speculation on my part.

Death Domain clerics and shadow sorcerers , wild sorcerers and necromancers wizards are my all time favorites , i HOPE the are IN the game . i will be disappointed if they are not .

[Revolt]

Larian, could you please make an official statement for Oathbreaker Paladin subclass and Cleric domain of death?!

Much appreaciated

[Oven]

Originally posted by Cimi:

Larian, could you please make an official statement for Oathbreaker Paladin subclass and Cleric domain of death?!

Much appreaciated

Bhall is a possible cleric god, so I fully expect domain of death to make it in

[Vaas]

Originally posted by Cimi:

Larian, could you please make an official statement for Oathbreaker Paladin subclass and Cleric domain of death?!

Much appreaciated

Pfft, I'm more interested in a HexBlade confirmation!

[jonnin]

Not 100% sure about 5e (I don't like it, TBH, and prefer pathfinder or older rulesets) but a fallen paladin broke his god's rules too much, and is forced to be a fighter class (all normal paladin ability lost, eg no lay on hands / cure / spells/ aura/etc) until they do a quest to get back in good graces or choose a new life (could change deity and resume paladin under a new faith). As you can be a paladin of evil now, I expect that would be true for them as well (can still do something too good for their religion). A dark paladin (whatever word you want to put on it) would be radically different from a fallen one, regardless of faith/alignment.

(all religious classes can fall: cleric, druid, paladin, ranger, monk(depends, could be just a martial arts order of atheists I guess) and so on). And not sure, I guess its possible for a warlock to have some sort of breaking with their demon that costs them their powers? Would be a RP / DM discretion thing there?

I don't expect BG3 to go to that level of religion / alignment stuff.

[Hobocop]

There are no class-based alignment restrictions in 5e.

Paladins have Oaths which are a personal code of ethics/mores that they follow which gives them their powers, and repeated, knowing violation of this causes them to fall and become Oathbreakers. None are explicitly tied to any particular alignment or religion, though the tenets of each can slot them into rough categories. It is both more detailed, and thus more useful as a roleplaying guideline than alignment yet not so restrictive as to be inflexible, and is probably the best thing to happen to paladins in D&D in a very long time.

[Alealexi]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

You can become an oathbreaker paladin at level 3 as one of the paladin's subclass.

It's essentially a Blackguard with limited necromantic ability.

Don't forget the Oath of Conquest paladin subclass. They are also evil paladins.