Alignments

[The Infinity Sock]

I have mixed feelings on them not forcing on alignments I mean there have been in the dnd for a long time but I can live with them only putting in good evil and neutral than putting in the chaotic or lawful alignments also if I remember right dnd tried to do the same thing in 4th edition and it backfired on them it might be a good idea to just ignore dnd on the alignment advice to Larian Studios so what do you lot think about Larian Studios not forcing on alignments is it a good idea or a bad idea?

[Gunslinger]

1st point was a request from wizards so they didnt really have many options

[droggen]

Yea Alignments are kind of a nice indicator of where you character stands in the world but Larian did a good job with moral choices in both DOS games so I'm sure they'll handle it fine here as well.

[zero]

alignment has hardly mattered for a long time, instead of worrying about "oh this is an evil action" you should just be going "yeah, my character would do/say this"

[Aria Athena]

I'm a bit confused by your paragraph. You are saying that the game will only have good/neutral/evil, but no chaotic and lawful alignments?

[The Infinity Sock]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

I'm a bit confused by your paragraph. You are saying that the game will only have good/neutral/evil, but no chaotic and lawful alignments?

Well wizards do say not to force on alignments so i am only guessing that we will get good evil and neutral in Baldur's Gate 3

[zero]

Originally posted by The Infinity Sock:

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

I'm a bit confused by your paragraph. You are saying that the game will only have good/neutral/evil, but no chaotic and lawful alignments?

Well wizards do say not to force on alignments so i am only guessing that we will get good evil and neutral in Baldur's Gate 3

your probably just gonna get none of them, cause those are just alignments your saying.

5e doesn't adhere to the 3 by 3, your actiosn have alignment, sure, but they don't matter, just do what you wanna do.

[Hobocop]

What are you even talking about? 5e has the full 3x3 grid of alignments, but barely any mechanics involve it, making it more of a flavor description. I think the point was not to focus on alignment so much, but on the characters as actual characters. Not a distilled two-letter label.

[DoM]

Not forcing alignments the way I understood it is not pre-picking one but align yourself with your actions. Maybe I'm wrong.

[zero]

Originally posted by Hobocop:

What are you even talking about? 5e has the full 3x3 grid of alignments. I think the point was not to focus on alignment so much, but on the characters as actual characters. Not a distilled two-letter label.

what alignment is animate dead in 5e?

do any spells have alignment restrictions?
any classes?
races?

aside from perhaps the venca items, alignment has been thrown more or less out the window in 5e.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Hobocop:

What are you even talking about? 5e has the full 3x3 grid of alignments. I think the point was not to focus on alignment so much, but on the characters as actual characters. Not a distilled two-letter label.

So you mean something like having alignments and the world around you react to them, but not have these stupid alignment restricted choices?

[Hobocop]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Originally posted by Hobocop:

What are you even talking about? 5e has the full 3x3 grid of alignments. I think the point was not to focus on alignment so much, but on the characters as actual characters. Not a distilled two-letter label.

So you mean something like having alignments and the world around you react to them, but not have these stupid alignment restricted choices?

Yeah, pretty much. Even generally good people will do terrible things if something they deeply care about is under threat.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Hobocop:

Yeah, pretty much. Even generally good people will do terrible things if something they deeply care about is under threat.

I usually play CN characters, so it always really bugged me when I couldn't do what I wanted because of alignment restrictions.

[The Infinity Sock]

Originally posted by Hobocop:

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

So you mean something like having alignments and the world around you react to them, but not have these stupid alignment restricted choices?

Yeah, pretty much. Even generally good people will do terrible things if something they deeply care about is under threat.

I agree with you on that good people can do some pretty bad stuff when under threat or their love one is under threat

[Syrris]

Considering how badly alignment-based games have generally handled it, it's not much of a loss.

I mean, even in the original BG games, the "alignments" expressed in dialogue amounted to "Ascetic-Penniless" "Yeah-Whatever" and "Psychotic-Stupid".

[Wraith]

yep I much prefer being able to choose whatever choice I want and to let those choices define me rather then follow the alignment system and be restricted to stuff.