The game is set over a 100 years after BG2.

[living_one]

Even the canonic Bhaalspawn is dead (1479). The game starts after Descent into Avernus campaign, so 1493 or 1494 DR.

The Bhaalspawn saga started in 1368 DR

We may see Minsc (he was resurrected sometime in the 1480s), Viconia and Coran (the thief), but the saga of the Child of Bhaal is long over. And Bhaal is alive and a God again anyway.

[That just happened]

Oh, this sucks. BTW I didn't actuallu followed DnD story much outside previous games. Can you share some links where I can read about what happened, why Bhaal is alive and etc.

[numsei]

Bhaal is alive because your character from BG saga ascended to godhood? makes sense and the god end turn oficial ending

[living_one]

No, the canonic Bhaalspawn (Abdel Adrian) was human, did not become a god but also kept the god essence, lived to be 136 and got killed by none other than Viekang...yeah, the teleporting coward. Then Bhaal (not the ascended spawn) returned to Faerun, reclaimed his portfolio from Cyric and is a Greater Deity now.

[Mighty Biscuit]

Originally posted by That just happened:

Oh, this sucks. BTW I didn't actuallu followed DnD story much outside previous games. Can you share some links where I can read about what happened, why Bhaal is alive and etc.

to continue off Living_one's post, when the final Baalspawn died in about 1480 cr, Baal came back to life, bursting out of the corpse of the final Baalspawn and kinda murdering his way through a huge chunk of Baldur's Gate.

It was a huge event in the city.

But for a full account of what happened in between 2nd edition and 5th:

The Time of Troubles, a period in which Ao, a god never mentioned in Baldur's Gate got real pissy that Baal, Bane, and Myrkul got together and stole the Tablets of Fate, a godly artifact with the fates of all things written on it. He got so pissy he kicked all the gods out of the divine realms and onto the prime material and told them they get to stay there until one of them finds the tablets and gives them back.

Eventually, he did get the tablets back, and pissed off that he lost them in the first place he shattered them, casuing the first sundering.

A bunch of gods died from this, tho one notable exception was Waukeen, who people -thought- was killed by Helm, but instead got kicked into a Odessy like journey where she was forced to play house guest to a powerful Devil in the 9 hells for a couple centuries until her return in 1480s.

Having a bunch of gods die on the prime mateiral and fate literally destroyed knocked ♥♥♥♥ out of whack hard. While there is no -cannonical- reason why the editions switched like the Time of Troubles was for Adnd witching to 2nd edition, its pretty easy to assume the magical fallout of the ToT caused the world to keep going screwy for another edition and a half.

A bunch of nasty things happened because of this. A grand army of not-mongols rose up from the far east, beyond the Sea of Fallen Stars and swept over huge portions of the continent Faerun.

Speaking of the Sea of Fallen Stars, a huge war between the nasty fishfolk the Sahuagin and the Merfolk broke out in which a giant mega shark destroyed entire cities, because Forgotten Realms.

An ancient empire of human Liches came back, haralding the return of Netheril, the civilization that literally thought "we dont have enough slaves so lets go to REAL EARTH and steal REAL ANCIENT EGYPTIANS." Which they did. And Anubis and Ra got real pissed about it and came to Faerun to bring their boys back home. Oh, and Nehteril blew up and disappeared ages ago because some guy thought it would be a good idea to cast a 12th level spell. (spells go to 9th level.)

Then, because ♥♥♥♥ wasnt wacky enough, Shar (goddes of forgetting and darkness) and Cyric (god of lies, madness, conquest, death, murder, and stealing as many godly portfolios as possible) got it in their crazy little heads they should kill Mystara.

Mystara is the goddess of magic. In a normal setting, this would be ok. She would just be the goddess of being good at casting magic, not the literal intelligent embodiment of the fundamental force of magic. So when she died, the fundamental force of magic broke and fell upon the prime material. The sky cracked open and huge tendrils and chunks of the Weave crashed into Faerun, haralding the spell plauge. A horrible near apocalypse in which vast swaths of the world were torched by ice, frozen by acid, flooded with liquid air, and fire was a tasty treat that was good to eat. Nothing made sense, and the lucky few who -didnt- die when they got smacked by spell plauge either became horrible monstrosities twisted by the unfiltered power of the weave.

Or pretty cool halfmortal half elemental Genasi.

Eventually though, this horrible apocalypse slowed down, the weave reformed and Mystara was reborn in 1481. And from then on things were peacy keen and nothing went wro-

The Second Sundering: In which Ao gets cold feet and remakes the Tablets of Fate. Now, for 2 centuries, with the destruction of the tablets, Fate wasnt a thing. Combined with the spellplauge weaving a second continent into the one from Faerun (the combined continent being called Abir-Toril), things got whacky when Ao tried to go "its rewind time" on the universe.

While Ao was remaking the tablets, the gods figured "we need to get as powerful as possible so when Ao -does- remake them, we are in a good position to take advantage of it." So they all made mortal champions and started wars over who gets to be the godliest of them all.

The world literally morphed and shook with the force of their wars and by the time it was all over, literal stars had fallen from the sky, gods once dead walked again, oceans swallowed entire nations, and -a lot- of people died.

Oh and somewhere in there, Baal came back, because he's like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cockroach, you cant keep that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ down for ever.

So yeah, Welcome to 5e Faerun. ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[abbyzero]

Originally posted by Mighty Biscuit:

Originally posted by That just happened:

Oh, this sucks. BTW I didn't actuallu followed DnD story much outside previous games. Can you share some links where I can read about what happened, why Bhaal is alive and etc.

to continue off Living_one's post, when the final Baalspawn died in about 1480 cr, Baal came back to life, bursting out of the corpse of the final Baalspawn and kinda murdering his way through a huge chunk of Baldur's Gate.

It was a huge event in the city.

But for a full account of what happened in between 2nd edition and 5th:

The Time of Troubles, a period in which Ao, a god never mentioned in Baldur's Gate got real pissy that Baal, Bane, and Myrkul got together and stole the Tablets of Fate, a godly artifact with the fates of all things written on it. He got so pissy he kicked all the gods out of the divine realms and onto the prime material and told them they get to stay there until one of them finds the tablets and gives them back.

Eventually, he did get the tablets back, and pissed off that he lost them in the first place he shattered them, casuing the first sundering.

A bunch of gods died from this, tho one notable exception was Waukeen, who people -thought- was killed by Helm, but instead got kicked into a Odessy like journey where she was forced to play house guest to a powerful Devil in the 9 hells for a couple centuries until her return in 1480s.

Having a bunch of gods die on the prime mateiral and fate literally destroyed knocked ♥♥♥♥ out of whack hard. While there is no -cannonical- reason why the editions switched like the Time of Troubles was for Adnd witching to 2nd edition, its pretty easy to assume the magical fallout of the ToT caused the world to keep going screwy for another edition and a half.

A bunch of nasty things happened because of this. A grand army of not-mongols rose up from the far east, beyond the Sea of Fallen Stars and swept over huge portions of the continent Faerun.

Speaking of the Sea of Fallen Stars, a huge war between the nasty fishfolk the Sahuagin and the Merfolk broke out in which a giant mega shark destroyed entire cities, because Forgotten Realms.

An ancient empire of human Liches came back, haralding the return of Netheril, the civilization that literally thought "we dont have enough slaves so lets go to REAL EARTH and steal REAL ANCIENT EGYPTIANS." Which they did. And Anubis and Ra got real pissed about it and came to Faerun to bring their boys back home. Oh, and Nehteril blew up and disappeared ages ago because some guy thought it would be a good idea to cast a 12th level spell. (spells go to 9th level.)

Then, because ♥♥♥♥ wasnt wacky enough, Shar (goddes of forgetting and darkness) and Cyric (god of lies, madness, conquest, death, murder, and stealing as many godly portfolios as possible) got it in their crazy little heads they should kill Mystara.

Mystara is the goddess of magic. In a normal setting, this would be ok. She would just be the goddess of being good at casting magic, not the literal intelligent embodiment of the fundamental force of magic. So when she died, the fundamental force of magic broke and fell upon the prime material. The sky cracked open and huge tendrils and chunks of the Weave crashed into Faerun, haralding the spell plauge. A horrible near apocalypse in which vast swaths of the world were torched by ice, frozen by acid, flooded with liquid air, and fire was a tasty treat that was good to eat. Nothing made sense, and the lucky few who -didnt- die when they got smacked by spell plauge either became horrible monstrosities twisted by the unfiltered power of the weave.

Or pretty cool halfmortal half elemental Genasi.

Eventually though, this horrible apocalypse slowed down, the weave reformed and Mystara was reborn in 1481. And from then on things were peacy keen and nothing went wro-

The Second Sundering: In which Ao gets cold feet and remakes the Tablets of Fate. Now, for 2 centuries, with the destruction of the tablets, Fate wasnt a thing. Combined with the spellplauge weaving a second continent into the one from Faerun (the combined continent being called Abir-Toril), things got whacky when Ao tried to go "its rewind time" on the universe.

While Ao was remaking the tablets, the gods figured "we need to get as powerful as possible so when Ao -does- remake them, we are in a good position to take advantage of it." So they all made mortal champions and started wars over who gets to be the godliest of them all.

The world literally morphed and shook with the force of their wars and by the time it was all over, literal stars had fallen from the sky, gods once dead walked again, oceans swallowed entire nations, and -a lot- of people died.

Oh and somewhere in there, Baal came back, because he's like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cockroach, you cant keep that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ down for ever.

So yeah, Welcome to 5e Faerun. ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Great post.

I want my Armor Class negative.
Advanced D&D forever.
RIP AD&D ed1-2

[Sangra69]

Wait that is the time frame when Tiamat begins to rise as well with the D&D Hoard of the Dragon Queen.

[Mighty Biscuit]

Originally posted by cwaldie:

Wait that is the time frame when Tiamat begins to rise as well with the D&D Hoard of the Dragon Queen.

Yep, pretty much all the modules in 5e take place at the same time in universe.

[Cyberdemon]

Originally posted by That just happened:

Oh, this sucks. BTW I didn't actuallu followed DnD story much outside previous games. Can you share some links where I can read about what happened, why Bhaal is alive and etc.

Check out youtuber Jorphdan search "D&D lore" you'll find him hes amazing.

[pinkfloyd9193]

Originally posted by Mighty Biscuit:

Originally posted by That just happened:

Oh, this sucks. BTW I didn't actuallu followed DnD story much outside previous games. Can you share some links where I can read about what happened, why Bhaal is alive and etc.

to continue off Living_one's post, when the final Baalspawn died in about 1480 cr, Baal came back to life, bursting out of the corpse of the final Baalspawn and kinda murdering his way through a huge chunk of Baldur's Gate.

It was a huge event in the city.

But for a full account of what happened in between 2nd edition and 5th:

The Time of Troubles, a period in which Ao, a god never mentioned in Baldur's Gate got real pissy that Baal, Bane, and Myrkul got together and stole the Tablets of Fate, a godly artifact with the fates of all things written on it. He got so pissy he kicked all the gods out of the divine realms and onto the prime material and told them they get to stay there until one of them finds the tablets and gives them back.

Eventually, he did get the tablets back, and pissed off that he lost them in the first place he shattered them, casuing the first sundering.

A bunch of gods died from this, tho one notable exception was Waukeen, who people -thought- was killed by Helm, but instead got kicked into a Odessy like journey where she was forced to play house guest to a powerful Devil in the 9 hells for a couple centuries until her return in 1480s.

Having a bunch of gods die on the prime mateiral and fate literally destroyed knocked ♥♥♥♥ out of whack hard. While there is no -cannonical- reason why the editions switched like the Time of Troubles was for Adnd witching to 2nd edition, its pretty easy to assume the magical fallout of the ToT caused the world to keep going screwy for another edition and a half.

A bunch of nasty things happened because of this. A grand army of not-mongols rose up from the far east, beyond the Sea of Fallen Stars and swept over huge portions of the continent Faerun.

Speaking of the Sea of Fallen Stars, a huge war between the nasty fishfolk the Sahuagin and the Merfolk broke out in which a giant mega shark destroyed entire cities, because Forgotten Realms.

An ancient empire of human Liches came back, haralding the return of Netheril, the civilization that literally thought "we dont have enough slaves so lets go to REAL EARTH and steal REAL ANCIENT EGYPTIANS." Which they did. And Anubis and Ra got real pissed about it and came to Faerun to bring their boys back home. Oh, and Nehteril blew up and disappeared ages ago because some guy thought it would be a good idea to cast a 12th level spell. (spells go to 9th level.)

Then, because ♥♥♥♥ wasnt wacky enough, Shar (goddes of forgetting and darkness) and Cyric (god of lies, madness, conquest, death, murder, and stealing as many godly portfolios as possible) got it in their crazy little heads they should kill Mystara.

Mystara is the goddess of magic. In a normal setting, this would be ok. She would just be the goddess of being good at casting magic, not the literal intelligent embodiment of the fundamental force of magic. So when she died, the fundamental force of magic broke and fell upon the prime material. The sky cracked open and huge tendrils and chunks of the Weave crashed into Faerun, haralding the spell plauge. A horrible near apocalypse in which vast swaths of the world were torched by ice, frozen by acid, flooded with liquid air, and fire was a tasty treat that was good to eat. Nothing made sense, and the lucky few who -didnt- die when they got smacked by spell plauge either became horrible monstrosities twisted by the unfiltered power of the weave.

Or pretty cool halfmortal half elemental Genasi.

Eventually though, this horrible apocalypse slowed down, the weave reformed and Mystara was reborn in 1481. And from then on things were peacy keen and nothing went wro-

The Second Sundering: In which Ao gets cold feet and remakes the Tablets of Fate. Now, for 2 centuries, with the destruction of the tablets, Fate wasnt a thing. Combined with the spellplauge weaving a second continent into the one from Faerun (the combined continent being called Abir-Toril), things got whacky when Ao tried to go "its rewind time" on the universe.

While Ao was remaking the tablets, the gods figured "we need to get as powerful as possible so when Ao -does- remake them, we are in a good position to take advantage of it." So they all made mortal champions and started wars over who gets to be the godliest of them all.

The world literally morphed and shook with the force of their wars and by the time it was all over, literal stars had fallen from the sky, gods once dead walked again, oceans swallowed entire nations, and -a lot- of people died.

Oh and somewhere in there, Baal came back, because he's like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cockroach, you cant keep that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ down for ever.

So yeah, Welcome to 5e Faerun. ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Not only informative but an entertaining read. Thank you.

[Kraehe]

Originally posted by Mighty Biscuit:

Originally posted by That just happened:

Oh, this sucks. BTW I didn't actuallu followed DnD story much outside previous games. Can you share some links where I can read about what happened, why Bhaal is alive and etc.

to continue off Living_one's post, when the final Baalspawn died in about 1480 cr, Baal came back to life, bursting out of the corpse of the final Baalspawn and kinda murdering his way through a huge chunk of Baldur's Gate.

It was a huge event in the city.

But for a full account of what happened in between 2nd edition and 5th:

The Time of Troubles, a period in which Ao, a god never mentioned in Baldur's Gate got real pissy that Baal, Bane, and Myrkul got together and stole the Tablets of Fate, a godly artifact with the fates of all things written on it. He got so pissy he kicked all the gods out of the divine realms and onto the prime material and told them they get to stay there until one of them finds the tablets and gives them back.

Eventually, he did get the tablets back, and pissed off that he lost them in the first place he shattered them, casuing the first sundering.

A bunch of gods died from this, tho one notable exception was Waukeen, who people -thought- was killed by Helm, but instead got kicked into a Odessy like journey where she was forced to play house guest to a powerful Devil in the 9 hells for a couple centuries until her return in 1480s.

Having a bunch of gods die on the prime mateiral and fate literally destroyed knocked ♥♥♥♥ out of whack hard. While there is no -cannonical- reason why the editions switched like the Time of Troubles was for Adnd witching to 2nd edition, its pretty easy to assume the magical fallout of the ToT caused the world to keep going screwy for another edition and a half.

A bunch of nasty things happened because of this. A grand army of not-mongols rose up from the far east, beyond the Sea of Fallen Stars and swept over huge portions of the continent Faerun.

Speaking of the Sea of Fallen Stars, a huge war between the nasty fishfolk the Sahuagin and the Merfolk broke out in which a giant mega shark destroyed entire cities, because Forgotten Realms.

An ancient empire of human Liches came back, haralding the return of Netheril, the civilization that literally thought "we dont have enough slaves so lets go to REAL EARTH and steal REAL ANCIENT EGYPTIANS." Which they did. And Anubis and Ra got real pissed about it and came to Faerun to bring their boys back home. Oh, and Nehteril blew up and disappeared ages ago because some guy thought it would be a good idea to cast a 12th level spell. (spells go to 9th level.)

Then, because ♥♥♥♥ wasnt wacky enough, Shar (goddes of forgetting and darkness) and Cyric (god of lies, madness, conquest, death, murder, and stealing as many godly portfolios as possible) got it in their crazy little heads they should kill Mystara.

Mystara is the goddess of magic. In a normal setting, this would be ok. She would just be the goddess of being good at casting magic, not the literal intelligent embodiment of the fundamental force of magic. So when she died, the fundamental force of magic broke and fell upon the prime material. The sky cracked open and huge tendrils and chunks of the Weave crashed into Faerun, haralding the spell plauge. A horrible near apocalypse in which vast swaths of the world were torched by ice, frozen by acid, flooded with liquid air, and fire was a tasty treat that was good to eat. Nothing made sense, and the lucky few who -didnt- die when they got smacked by spell plauge either became horrible monstrosities twisted by the unfiltered power of the weave.

Or pretty cool halfmortal half elemental Genasi.

Eventually though, this horrible apocalypse slowed down, the weave reformed and Mystara was reborn in 1481. And from then on things were peacy keen and nothing went wro-

The Second Sundering: In which Ao gets cold feet and remakes the Tablets of Fate. Now, for 2 centuries, with the destruction of the tablets, Fate wasnt a thing. Combined with the spellplauge weaving a second continent into the one from Faerun (the combined continent being called Abir-Toril), things got whacky when Ao tried to go "its rewind time" on the universe.

While Ao was remaking the tablets, the gods figured "we need to get as powerful as possible so when Ao -does- remake them, we are in a good position to take advantage of it." So they all made mortal champions and started wars over who gets to be the godliest of them all.

The world literally morphed and shook with the force of their wars and by the time it was all over, literal stars had fallen from the sky, gods once dead walked again, oceans swallowed entire nations, and -a lot- of people died.

Oh and somewhere in there, Baal came back, because he's like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cockroach, you cant keep that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ down for ever.

So yeah, Welcome to 5e Faerun. ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Do you need a hug?

Great post, thanks!

[That just happened]

Originally posted by Mighty Biscuit:

So yeah, Welcome to 5e Faerun. ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

WTF did I just read, lol?! Thank a lot for explaining. Knowing all of this I doubt the world of Forgotten Realms I liked so much will bring me joy again, but we'll see.

[numsei]

Originally posted by Mighty Biscuit:

Originally posted by That just happened:

Oh, this sucks. BTW I didn't actuallu followed DnD story much outside previous games. Can you share some links where I can read about what happened, why Bhaal is alive and etc.

to continue off Living_one's post, when the final Baalspawn died in about 1480 cr, Baal came back to life, bursting out of the corpse of the final Baalspawn and kinda murdering his way through a huge chunk of Baldur's Gate.

It was a huge event in the city.

But for a full account of what happened in between 2nd edition and 5th:

The Time of Troubles, a period in which Ao, a god never mentioned in Baldur's Gate got real pissy that Baal, Bane, and Myrkul got together and stole the Tablets of Fate, a godly artifact with the fates of all things written on it. He got so pissy he kicked all the gods out of the divine realms and onto the prime material and told them they get to stay there until one of them finds the tablets and gives them back.

Eventually, he did get the tablets back, and pissed off that he lost them in the first place he shattered them, casuing the first sundering.

A bunch of gods died from this, tho one notable exception was Waukeen, who people -thought- was killed by Helm, but instead got kicked into a Odessy like journey where she was forced to play house guest to a powerful Devil in the 9 hells for a couple centuries until her return in 1480s.

Having a bunch of gods die on the prime mateiral and fate literally destroyed knocked ♥♥♥♥ out of whack hard. While there is no -cannonical- reason why the editions switched like the Time of Troubles was for Adnd witching to 2nd edition, its pretty easy to assume the magical fallout of the ToT caused the world to keep going screwy for another edition and a half.

A bunch of nasty things happened because of this. A grand army of not-mongols rose up from the far east, beyond the Sea of Fallen Stars and swept over huge portions of the continent Faerun.

Speaking of the Sea of Fallen Stars, a huge war between the nasty fishfolk the Sahuagin and the Merfolk broke out in which a giant mega shark destroyed entire cities, because Forgotten Realms.

An ancient empire of human Liches came back, haralding the return of Netheril, the civilization that literally thought "we dont have enough slaves so lets go to REAL EARTH and steal REAL ANCIENT EGYPTIANS." Which they did. And Anubis and Ra got real pissed about it and came to Faerun to bring their boys back home. Oh, and Nehteril blew up and disappeared ages ago because some guy thought it would be a good idea to cast a 12th level spell. (spells go to 9th level.)

Then, because ♥♥♥♥ wasnt wacky enough, Shar (goddes of forgetting and darkness) and Cyric (god of lies, madness, conquest, death, murder, and stealing as many godly portfolios as possible) got it in their crazy little heads they should kill Mystara.

Mystara is the goddess of magic. In a normal setting, this would be ok. She would just be the goddess of being good at casting magic, not the literal intelligent embodiment of the fundamental force of magic. So when she died, the fundamental force of magic broke and fell upon the prime material. The sky cracked open and huge tendrils and chunks of the Weave crashed into Faerun, haralding the spell plauge. A horrible near apocalypse in which vast swaths of the world were torched by ice, frozen by acid, flooded with liquid air, and fire was a tasty treat that was good to eat. Nothing made sense, and the lucky few who -didnt- die when they got smacked by spell plauge either became horrible monstrosities twisted by the unfiltered power of the weave.

Or pretty cool halfmortal half elemental Genasi.

Eventually though, this horrible apocalypse slowed down, the weave reformed and Mystara was reborn in 1481. And from then on things were peacy keen and nothing went wro-

The Second Sundering: In which Ao gets cold feet and remakes the Tablets of Fate. Now, for 2 centuries, with the destruction of the tablets, Fate wasnt a thing. Combined with the spellplauge weaving a second continent into the one from Faerun (the combined continent being called Abir-Toril), things got whacky when Ao tried to go "its rewind time" on the universe.

While Ao was remaking the tablets, the gods figured "we need to get as powerful as possible so when Ao -does- remake them, we are in a good position to take advantage of it." So they all made mortal champions and started wars over who gets to be the godliest of them all.

The world literally morphed and shook with the force of their wars and by the time it was all over, literal stars had fallen from the sky, gods once dead walked again, oceans swallowed entire nations, and -a lot- of people died.

Oh and somewhere in there, Baal came back, because he's like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cockroach, you cant keep that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ down for ever.

So yeah, Welcome to 5e Faerun. ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

thanks man, that was.... complicated, i stopped playing D&D around the end of 3.5 edition, i just love Forgotten Realms, there is so much things they can do..... for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake, a whole campaign can be done only inside undermountain... it's just how awesome this world is

[Gnarl]

Has Thay fallen in this time period?

Those books were good reads.

[Mighty Biscuit]

Originally posted by Gnarl:

Has Thay fallen in this time period?

Those books were good reads.

if the book was released after august 19, 2014, then it is contemporary with the current incarnation of Forgotten Realms.

Though at the moment, Thay is still active and evil as ♥♥♥♥, those literal magical nazis.

[living_one]

Thay is functioning, Lantan came back and Mystra is alive again.