Please Larian, make it as TBS style combat....

[[தமிழண்டா]_Nooby]

^

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Turbo, you're still putting Planescape 94% score as having the same weight of DoS 2 94% score, even knowing that DoS 2 sold so much more copies than Planescape.

Could you elaborate better why you think these games should weight the same to measure success despite the huge difference amount of sales?

You know you don't... Stop calling names LOL

[Turbo Nozomix]

Fenris님이 먼저 게시:

No, guy.
We begins with the games on steam but YOU wanted to add all your very old games to the list because you think there could be at your advantage.

You're lying again. I compared modern releases to modern releases, using strictly the Steam user scores. YOU demanded that original releases including as far back as Fallout and Fallout 2 be included. And so I added them.

Look, you English is obviously terrible, there's no question about that. But, that doesn't excuse you being a habitual liar, or your lack of understanding of simple maths.

And most of them were not on steam.[/quote[
The ones which weren't on Steam that you, exclusively you, demanded be included, I got their scores from Metacritic and plainly stated this. Where in the world else would you expect me to get them from?

So, you've gone search for some metacritic numbers to add and compare apples and oranges with 50% steam, 50% not steam and with numbers at your advantage to falsify the calcul.

I used all Steam figures, until you demanded other games not on Steam be included.

Take responsibility for your own actions: You demanded those games be included, and so I included them to accommodate you. You are a filthy a liar as there is one.

So i've gone all the metacritics numbers for all games. To comparing apples and apples.
And you've lost.

Metacritic still shows the same thing I reported. You are awful at everything, it seems. I'm still going to complete my post. Have fun reading, you hypocritical, desperate liar.

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Fenris님이 먼저 게시:

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

You definitively are liars and clowns. And all my numbers are correct.

Do you want read again perhaps, liar, clown and dishonest guy?

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

Might & Magic is a not an isometric RPG and doesn't belong here.

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

Here:

Divinity: Original Sin 2 - it scored 94%
Divinity: Original Sin - it scored 88%
Wasteland 2 has TB - it scored 82%
Pillars of Eternity 2 has TB - it scored 81%
Torment: Numenera has TB - it scored 70%

Non-Steam, metacritic user scores:

Fallout - 88%
Fallout 2 - 91%

Average review score for games with TB combat - 84.8%



Planescape: Torment's remaster has RTwP - it scored 94%
Dragon Age has RTwP - it scored 91%
Tyranny has RTwP - it scored 85%
Baldur's Gate - 85%
Baldur's Gate 2 - 85%
Pillars of Eternity has RTwP - it scored 84%
Pillars of Eternity 2 has TB - it scored 81%
Neverwinter Nights - 74%
Pathfinder: Kingmaker - it scored 70%

Non-Steam, metacritic user scores:

Baldur's Gate original - 89%
Baldur's Gate 2 original - 92%
Planescape: Torment original - 91%

Average review score for games with RTwP combat - 85.9%



Lol! I've accommodated literally every cherry-picked scenario you lying and extensively intellectually-dishonest trolls have demanded, and the result is the same.


Exposed lying, cheating, desperate hypocrites in this thread are:

TrueWarlord真の武
Eisberg
Fenris

I wouldn't trust these people about what they say. They have proven themselves to be dishonest and eager to manipulate and distort if they can get away with it. And even when they are accommodated, rather than admit that they were wrong and have been corrected, they become increasingly resentful of the truth and whoever speaks it, and they stoop to new low after new low.


As everybody can see in this thread, there are no arguments supporting those fanboys seeking to co-opt Baldur's Gate 3 and turn it into a D:OS clone and reskin. There simply aren't.

Thanks for providing the means to comprehensively debunk you cheats.

Ok let's go boy, play your game with your own rules and list:
First lesson, when you search to do a comparative, you don't compare apples and oranges, numbers from here, number from there, numbers from your a$$.
1) I will take every number from metacritic (because all the games aren't on steam) and i will write the source, not like you with numbers we just have to have faith on you even they are not good.
2)

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

Might & Magic is a not an isometric RPG and doesn't belong here.

It's just one of the most played rpg series with 10 games and in TB mode but ok, as you want, we won't take numbers from games who aren't isometric RPG. It's your choice ok.
3) you're nice and charming but you note the baldur'gate 1 & 2 classic versions + baldur's gate 1&2 enhanced edition in the same total. And of course not the divinity 1 et 2 original + enhanced edition. Wtf ? This is what you name honestly i suppose ?
But it makes no sense to count every games 2 times so we will take only one, and the enhanced edition for each game because it's supposed to be the better version. Their name are "enhanced version" not "bullsh.t version", right ?

DoS1: 94 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/divinity-original-sin-enhanced-edition)
DoS2: 95 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/divinity-original-sin-ii---definitive-edition)
Wasteland 2: 87 https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/wasteland-2-directors-cut
Pillars of Eternity 2 has TB - 88 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/pillars-of-eternity-ii-deadfire)
Torment: Numenera has TB - 81 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/torment-tides-of-numenera)
Fallout 1 : 89 (https://www.metacritic.com/search/all/fallout/results) who is dishonest ?
Fallout 2: 86% (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-2)

Average review score for games with TB combat - 88,57%

Planescape: Torment's enhanced edition: 85 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/planescape-torment---enhanced-edition)
for information non enhanced edition is 91
Dragon Age has RTwP - it scored: nothing (sorry guy it's not an isometric rpg)
Tyranny has RTwP - 80 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/tyranny)
Baldur's Gate - 78 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition)
for information the non enhanced is 91 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/baldurs-gate)
Baldur's Gate 2 enhanced edition: 78 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/baldurs-gate-ii-enhanced-edition)
for information the non enhanced is 95 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/baldurs-gate-ii-shadows-of-amn)
Pillars of Eternity has RTwP: 89 ( https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/pillars-of-eternity)
Pillars of Eternity 2 has TB - 88 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/pillars-of-eternity-ii-deadfire)
for information, on steam before the Tb mode patch the % was 58% and not 84% as now. I must do you a gift with 26% more ? ok, let's go, i'm cool, it's a gift, i will take the 84% the game never had before his TB patch.
Neverwinter nights: nothing (sorry guys, it's not an isometric rpg) For information it's 91 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/neverwinter-nights)
neverwinter nights 2 (i add it to the list, you've forget it): nothing (sorry, it's not an isometric rpg) ( for information it's 82 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/neverwinter-nights-2)
Pathfinder: Kingmaker: 73 (https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/pathfinder-kingmaker)

Average review score for games with RTwP combat - 81, 57

Oh my god, 88,57% against 81,57, it seems you and the RT loose. Even with the POE2 gift...
Perhaps you need i count the better versions for you, and not only the enhanced version, ok, let's go !

New average review score for games with RTwP combat (with all the best scores + the PoE2 gift) - 86,71

♥♥♥♥, you loose again !
Do you think it's because i don't count dragon age and the nwn1&2 because they're not asymetric RPGs. But it was your own rules, no ? Ok let's try.

Dragon age: 91% https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dragon-age-origins
Nwn: 91 https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/neverwinter-nights
Nwn2: 82 https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/neverwinter-nights-2

New average review score for games with RTwP combat with all the best numbers possible (enhanced or not) and with all the non asymetric rpgs (as it was your choice) + the PoE2 gift: 87,1

♥♥♥♥, the RT games loose again, and this time i can't do anything to stop you to be a looser, man. It's finished you're game over.

So, do you really want we continue with the numbers of review on steam (and not just the %) because it is more representative from the numbers of players ? Remember, all your games are between 1,2k and 8k max (just one at 8k, second at 6k and others are worse) and just DoS2 have 41k. Do you really want to be humiliated more ?

Perhaps do you want we take the numbers of effective players from the steam charts. No, you don't want, you will cry like a baby.
So i assume we will stop here, right ?

What did you say about being dishonest, i don't remember. And i wil ledit you if you're ok because there is no doubt now:

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

Lol! I've accommodated literally every cherry-picked scenario you lying and extensively intellectually-dishonest trolls have demanded, and the result is the same. I LOOSE !!!

Me, Turbo Nozomix i'm the most Exposed lying, cheating, desperate hypocrites in this thread.

You wouldn't trust me about what I say. I've proven myself to be dishonest and eager to manipulate and distort if i can get away with it. And even when i'm accommodated, rather than admit that i was wrong and have been corrected, i become increasingly resentful of the truth and whoever speaks it, andi stoop to new low after new low.


As everybody can see in this thread, there are no arguments supporting meseeking to co-opt Baldur's Gate 3 and turn it into a less good game clone and reskin. There simply aren't.

Thanks for providing the means to comprehensively debunk my cheats.

Bye funny Boy !

Dude, he is not really reading, you should have realised it by now...

[Turbo Nozomix]

TrueWarlord真の武님이 먼저 게시:

Turbo, you're still putting Planescape 94% score as having the same weight of DoS 2 94% score, even knowing that DoS 2 sold so much more copies than Planescape.

Incredible. You're still failing to understand percentages and polling.

You're somebody who isn't nearly sharp enough to realize how clueless they are.

Shively님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, with sample sizes of a thousand or greater it's not far-fetched to extrapolate to society as a whole give or take some margin of error, speaking strictly as a statistician here. Number of votes doesn't particularly matter past a certain point, the higher vote count just yields the same result.

[Turbo Nozomix]

Fenris님이 먼저 게시:

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

You definitively are liars and clowns. And all my numbers are correct.

Do you want read again perhaps, liar, clown and dishonest guy?

As I've said, my numbers are all correct - perfectly correct. Yours are not, and you are still not understanding how averages work.

This is so embarrassing for you. You literally make yourself out to look even worse with each next post you make.

Also as I've told you, I'm continuing to respond to your entire score list. Just wait - you won't want to miss it (at least I don't want you to miss it!).

[Fenris]

TrueWarlord真の武님이 먼저 게시:

Dude, he is not really reading, you should have realised it by now...

Yeah, it just a troll. probably he's waiting the thread will be closed because you know, as he don't want a TB game, he try to shut down the thread speaking about TB.
It's the way of doing for some stupid players. Sadly it's always coming from the same side (the RT guys).
Or perhaps he's just really stupid or have a so big ego he can't recognize he was wrong.
But it's not important, because any people who will read the thread will see that he was wrong, he lies, and insult non stop. So... i don't care.

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

TrueWarlord真の武님이 먼저 게시:

Turbo, you're still putting Planescape 94% score as having the same weight of DoS 2 94% score, even knowing that DoS 2 sold so much more copies than Planescape.

Incredible. You're still failing to understand percentages and polling.

You're somebody who isn't nearly sharp enough to realize how clueless they are.

Shively님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, with sample sizes of a thousand or greater it's not far-fetched to extrapolate to society as a whole give or take some margin of error, speaking strictly as a statistician here. Number of votes doesn't particularly matter past a certain point, the higher vote count just yields the same result.

Hahahaha...

We're not talking about census fool, we're talking about measure of success. Even the guy that you quoted said you're a fool if you think sales are not important...

The wall is closing Turbo... Why you're putting Planescape 94% score as having the same weight of DoS 2 94% score to measure success, even knowing that DoS 2 sold so much more copies than Planescape...

So if we pick a game that sold 10 copies with 100% review score it means this game is more successful than DoS 2?

You seriously can't see how wrong you are? Or maybe you're just not thinking anymore... You lost too many battles my friend, but don't worry, what is dead may never die.

[Fenris]

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

Also as I've told you, I'm continuing to respond to your entire score list. Just wait - you won't want to miss it (at least I don't want you to miss it!).

Lol, but it's good man, we've tried already. We saw what your value. it's ok. I won't wait to read your nonsense and insults, i will talk to my dog this will be a more clever discussion than loose my time with you. You have nothing to add.
Anyone can read and see who merit all the terms you use to speak to others people :)
Bye young idiot (you've loose no matter what you will try to say now to save the face, it's too late, everyone has seen it and will see).

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Fenris님이 먼저 게시:

TrueWarlord真の武님이 먼저 게시:

Dude, he is not really reading, you should have realised it by now...

Yeah, it just a troll. probably he's waiting the thread will be closed because you know, as he don't want a TB game, he try to shut down the thread speaking about TB.
It's the way of doing for some stupid players. Sadly it's always coming from the same side (the RT guys).
Or perhaps he's just really stupid or have a so big ego he can't recognize he was wrong.
But it's not important, because any people who will read the thread will see that he was wrong, he lies, and insult non stop. So... i don't care.

Well, when everyone starts to throw insults at each other, a thread will be locked. When just one person is making insults and other people don't reply with insults, a person will be banned. Take it as advice (and always report the trolls without letting they know)

[Turbo Nozomix]

So, carrying on:

Fenris님이 먼저 게시:

Wasteland 2: 87 https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/wasteland-2-directors-cut

Wait a minute... after making all that noise about including both the original and re-release figures for all games... you omitted Wasteland 2's original release score, and presented the Wasteland 2 Director's Cut score as though it was the score for all of Wasteland 2?

YOU MEAN YOU ARE LYING AND FALSIFYING FIGURES AGAIN TO TRY TO DECEIVE EVERYONE?

Wow. Like who would have expected you'd once again do exactly what you've done the entire time?

Wasteland 2 DC has a Metacritic user score of 87%, but Wasteland 2 has a Metacritic user score of just 73%. Ouch! That's going to bring the average score for TB games down even more below that for RTwP .

The average score of 87% and 73% is 80%. That's not too different than the Steam review score I used for Wasteland 2, which is 82%, but it is a bit lower.


I hope you're eagerly anticipating the rest of this correction of your post. It's a lot of fun, for me, anyway.

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Turbo you did a great job at keeping this thread alive. Thank you for your patronage, I must sleep now.

Soon we will see what Larian will bring to us, hope it's turn-based so I can mock you, respectfully of course. Peace bro, don't let it ruin your night/day whatever.

[Turbo Nozomix]

TrueWarlord真の武님이 먼저 게시:

Turbo you did a great job at keeping this thread alive. Thank you for your patronage, I must sleep now.

Soon we will see what Larian will bring to us, hope it's turn-based so I can mock you, respectfully of course. Peace bro, don't let it ruin your night/day whatever.

Don't let your utter devastation in this thread keep you from getting a good night sleep.

Enjoy reading the full debunking of Fenris' lie-post when you wake up. I'm sure others will.

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

TrueWarlord真の武님이 먼저 게시:

Turbo you did a great job at keeping this thread alive. Thank you for your patronage, I must sleep now.

Soon we will see what Larian will bring to us, hope it's turn-based so I can mock you, respectfully of course. Peace bro, don't let it ruin your night/day whatever.

Don't let your utter devastation in this thread keep you from getting a good night sleep.

Enjoy reading the full debunking of Fenris' lie-post when you wake up. I'm sure others will.

Sure, and I hope they can keep bumping this thread as well since 90% of the population will never read anything that has more than 5 lines in a video game forum...

Expect lots of "RTwP is trash" as a reply of all your "hard working and research". Very impressive job, you should be paid for what you did here.

[Turbo Nozomix]

TrueWarlord真の武님이 먼저 게시:

Turbo Nozomix님이 먼저 게시:

Incredible. You're still failing to understand percentages and polling.

You're somebody who isn't nearly sharp enough to realize how clueless they are.

Hahahaha...

We're not talking about census fool, we're talking about measure of success. Even the guy that you quoted said you're a fool if you think sales are not important...

Wrong on both counts - deliberately, likely, seeing as how you don't stop lying about other things.

The review scores were initially brought up and are still being discussed for the purpose of showing what gamers think of isometric RPGs that have either RTwP or TB combat systems.

What Shively said would be foolish is to say that a game with 1,000 reviews was as financially successful as a game with 40,000 reviews - which has never been a point of debate in this thread.

Either you are really hard of understanding, or you're lying once again.

No matter. Either way, you've been proven wrong on everything you've claimed, and this only adds to the pile.

[Barnabas]

Rtwp rocks!