The Plot (SPOILERS)

[Sofia]

So wait...


This happens 100 years after Gunvolt 1, in a universe where Asimov killed Gunvolt and Joule/Lumen? IE, after its bad end?

If so, how did Lola ever awaken the Muse Septima? Joule/Lumen being dead, the entire plot of Gunvolt 2 can't have happened, so Copen never got to experiment with the Muse Septima.

Or does he just refer to their deaths without caring about the fact they then got back up as one and punched him in the chains?

Cool twist though. Copen fighting the good fight for a hundred years is pretty him.

[Red]

Maybe Asimov just no longer remembers what really happened after he pulled the trigger 100 years ago due to him basically going insane by then. I doubt it's an alternative universe.

[Missile]

Yeah Im curious about that too. I hope its not an alternate universe. I just hope we get to play as new girl!

[High-Volt]

In one of the side materials, it's mentioned that Copen got his Stellar Spark and Flashshield from Asimov's dead body. Since Asimov didn't die in this timeline, it's most likely that Copen got the Stellar Spark from Gunvolt's corpse instead, and alongside Gunvolt's corpse would be Joule's body, which Copen could get the Muse septima from.

[Your Cat From 1000m Away]

I think it's a "What if ...?" story, just like Dead Rising 2: Off The Record.

[Neka Osco]

I'm kinda shock when our old friend Asimov show his face in the game.

[koinzell]

finished the game,
and wow, it ended on a whimper,

you'll find a small references from GV1 bad ending & some hints from 2 but nothing of worth,
i expected more out of this,

the plot was so stupidly safe & bland, giving copen a halfbaked MMZ plot feels off,

it felt like a personal fan-fic story made by a copen & megaman zero GBA series fan
along with other fan-service waifu stuff like a female GV,

if this "what if" is a 1 off thing, then its not worth it.

[Sofia]

Originally posted by koinzell:

finished the game,
and wow, it ended on a whimper,

you'll find a small references from GV1 bad ending & some hints from 2 but nothing of worth,
i expected more out of this,

the plot was so stupidly safe & bland, giving copen a halfbaked MMZ plot feels off,

it felt like a personal fan-fic story made by a copen & megaman zero GBA series fan
along with other fan-service waifu stuff like a female GV,

if this "what if" is a 1 off thing, then its not worth it.

SAFE? They put his sister's brain in a jar and tortured her for XX years and he had to mercy kill her as she begged for death. While establishing that this may be a timeline where Gunvolt and Joule died, and the villain won.

... bland, I vaguely agree (Asimov was a really cool twist and showing us how far the Azure Striker Septima can go). But safe? Lord no.This twist took a dump on BOTH GV1 and GV2's endings at the same time. It's not safe and I expect a lot of people to be mad.

[koinzell]

Originally posted by Dri:

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SAFE? They put his sister's brain in a jar and tortured her for XX years and he had to mercy kill her as she begged for death. While establishing that this may be a timeline where Gunvolt and Joule died, and the villain won.

... bland, I vaguely agree (Asimov was a really cool twist and showing us how far the Azure Striker Septima can go). But safe? Lord no.

your right,
the word "safe" is not the correct word,

what do you call an over-used generic anime weeb troops where the hero is 99% on a death bed,
and then gets stupidly lazily rescued by "insert forced main anime fan-service girl here" wail finishing his job at the end?
following the status quo?

given the dark themes you mentioned, and the fact that Copen is known to be this anti hero vigilante,
i kinda expected her or me to die after the credits, forcing me to hunt for those medals stuff just to unlock the true final boss or something more.

[Sofia]

The word you want is predictable.

I personally liked the entire thing - I think some things could have been done or set up better, and I think making this an alternate timeline is unnecessary - but overall I'd give it a solid 7 or 8 out of 10. It's not revolutionary, but it's not snore-inducing, either, and the twists are legitimately enjoyable. Asimov was cool, and the idea Copen is so obsessed with murdering Adepts he made himself a cyborg so he could do it forever is absolutely on-point.

... however, huge point loss for him not killing Blade. Sister or not, 100 years or not, that did kind of break character. GV1 and GV2 sets in stone that Copen doesn't tolerate Adepts even when they're helping him. He literally tries to kill Gunvolt even as Gunvolt is trying to kill Nova, which is what Copen was there to do too.

[Memer Report]

Originally posted by Dri:

Originally posted by koinzell:

finished the game,
and wow, it ended on a whimper,

you'll find a small references from GV1 bad ending & some hints from 2 but nothing of worth,
i expected more out of this,

the plot was so stupidly safe & bland, giving copen a halfbaked MMZ plot feels off,

it felt like a personal fan-fic story made by a copen & megaman zero GBA series fan
along with other fan-service waifu stuff like a female GV,

if this "what if" is a 1 off thing, then its not worth it.

SAFE? They put his sister's brain in a jar and tortured her for XX years and he had to mercy kill her as she begged for death. While establishing that this may be a timeline where Gunvolt and Joule died, and the villain won.

... bland, I vaguely agree (Asimov was a really cool twist and showing us how far the Azure Striker Septima can go). But safe? Lord no.This twist took a dump on BOTH GV1 and GV2's endings at the same time. It's not safe and I expect a lot of people to be mad.

Honestly, there has to be something in the middle of GV2 and this.

Spoilers from GV2:

Based on what happened in the game, Mytyl was born with the Muse Septima but then Copen's father removed it from her due to its power. Then Sumeragi made Joule the new recepient of it, and then GV1 happens.

iX implies that Mytyl became the muse again, but in GV2's ending she's without her Septima's activation program (which is the pendant that Xiao Wu and Nori have in the secret ending) so maybe, in an hypothetical GV3 would happen something that will lead to this timeline.

Also, during Asimov's second phase we can see Mytyl's smile within the glitched UI. This might be a reach but still.

And by any means, this isn't a safe plot or anything. Something safe would've been something like "Sumeragi is back because ♥♥♥♥ you" with no correlation between the previous games.

To me, the entire ending saved the game from being something unrelated and unimportant to the series. Now, I think it's at least at the same level of GV1.

[Sofia]

Originally posted by BRUH.:

Also, during Asimov's second phase we can see Mytyl's smile within the glitched UI. This might be a reach but still.

I would assume, but this is purely headcanon, that much like how Joule became part of Gunvolt after her death because of her Septima, then there's no reason Mytyl can't do the same, and she might be inside Lola now.

It's a reach, but it makes the ending a bit less bitter.

[BlueFenixR]

People losing their ♥♥♥♥ over something developers acknowledged as a spinoff/alternate stuff. Asimov being alive 100% confirms it being alternate universe shenanigans.

It was pretty rare already that Copen accepted/offered help to the Minos, he was pretty much a hardcore loner and only trusted his maid in 2, but i guess 100 years of fighting can change stuff.

And i should not be reading this since i still haven't finished the game but w/e i knew something iffy was up when they gave a name to people without power and being actively hunted since that was not something that have yet happened in either of GV 1-2.

Edit: to give another plus to using spinoff/alternate universe/what if stories is that you don't corner yourself in the main series sotries by trying to keep truth to these games in the future.

It's why Megaman X Happened Centuries after Megaman, Zero Centuries after X, ZX Centuries after Zero, etc.

[Sofia]

Originally posted by BRUH.:

Also, during Asimov's second phase we can see Mytyl's smile within the glitched UI. This might be a reach but still.

As for this part though, after looking at a slow motion of the fight, you see a lot of different images. Mytyl's smile, yes, but you also see Copen standing in front of the Butterfly Effect, Kokahu on the bed sick, etc. So I think that's just supposed to represent Copen's damaged eye showing him random recordings.

Originally posted by BlueFenixR:

People losing their ♥♥♥♥ over something developers acknowledged as a spinoff/alternate stuff. Asimov being alive 100% confirms it being alternate universe shenanigans.

It was pretty rare already that Copen accepted/offered help to the Minos, he was pretty much a hardcore loner and only trusted his maid in 2, but i guess 100 years of fighting can change stuff.

And i should not be reading this since i still haven't finished the game but w/e i knew something iffy was up when they gave a name to people without power and being actively hunted since that was not something that have yet happened in either of GV 1-2.

I wouldn't say 100%, more like 99%. There's the offchance he became an AI after his death, or because of his death. Azure Striker seems kind of OP that way.

[BlueFenixR]

I don't know that seems kinda forced as a plot, most adepts stay dead after the fight and it was only by the power of one of them that they came back alive in GV1 and 2 during the final stages, and afaik that one particular adept was killed in 2, which makes me curious how it happens here in iX (I really need to finish the game) and how will it be in 3 :P

[Sofia]

Originally posted by BlueFenixR:

I don't know that seems kinda forced as a plot, most adepts stay dead after the fight and it was only by the power of one of them that they came back alive in GV1 and 2 during the final stages, and afaik that one particular adept was killed in 2, which makes me curious how it happens here in iX (I really need to finish the game) and how will it be in 3 :P

"Holograms". Which is apparently a power Asimov has now.

No it's not explained better than that.

Yes the holograms have mass and powers. Hence me saying Azure Striker seems OP.

No it's not explained better than that.